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07-08-2008, 04:47 PM
chrish284

"The gas is controlling it all. If they would drill here at home the problem would be solved and the muscle cars could come back. If they drill here I betthe prices would stay right where their at." Tim, that will never happen, at least not in our lifetime. The American dollar is what is driving the price of oil. It's simply not worth much anymore, andthat's why we're paying more for each barrel. It's also the only thing, keeping the US from going into a massive, and I mean massive depression.The last one, will be a joke compared to the new one. I don't think, we're seen anything yet......
07-08-2008, 05:48 PM
MINGOTOY

That new Camaro is butt-ugly. I think that they missed it completely . I saw the new Challenger this past weekend and it's a nicecar but it looks chunky... Then again, it is based on the new Charger which is a big car. GM needs to go back and build basic small cars.... If any GM execs are reading this..... Go buy a CIVIC and slap a bow tie on the grill and some roundtaillight on the rear and call it CHEVY VEGA or Chevy II or Nova.... Go buy a Camry and put a Buick nose on it and some Regal-like taillights and callit the new Buick Regal... Believe me, Forget about the Buick Enclave or Chevy Traverse....30,ooo for a 5 thousand pound boat to go to the mall. Thosedays are gone.
07-08-2008, 06:53 PM
gumpys

Or because they figure due to the economy, not everyone has 60 grand to fork over on a Camaro. It does look ok, but would rather have that new challenger, or a1971 Pontiac gto.<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/tongue.gif" alt="image"> Eric
07-08-2008, 09:29 PM
CHEVY57

Some people say the Camaro's ugly some say that Toyotas are, to each his own. The Camaro will have different engine options so you could get a 6 banger ifyou wanted. But lets be serious who the hell would by a sports car without the biggest motor available. Hotrodders could care less about MPG's. Just go toany cruise night and see if one person cares about gas. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image">
07-08-2008, 11:25 PM
mattrocks3

<blockquote> chrish284 wrote: <hr> "The gas is controlling it all. If they would drill here at home the problem would be solved and the muscle cars could come back. If they drill here I bet the prices would stay right where their at." Tim, that will never happen, at least not in our lifetime. The American dollar is what is driving the price of oil. It's simply not worth much anymore, and that's why we're paying more for each barrel. It's also the only thing, keeping the US from going into a massive, and I mean massive depression. The last one, will be a joke compared to the new one. I don't think, we're seen anything yet...... Chris I've had the same feeling for a while now that unless gas prices go down drastically U.S. will go into deep depression and then because we here in Canada rely so much on the U.S. will soon follow and then everything's out of whack because U.S. can't buy anything from other countries and so on and so forth. I hope to god that this doesn't happen, but unless something drastically changes soon that's where the world is headed, but maybe not China. Also I'm not trying to be pessimistic or all doomsday with you guys. I'm just saying what I feel will happen in all honesty. </blockquote>
07-09-2008, 01:03 AM
redlines68

If the big 3 really wanted to blow me away theyd make a tube chassis 2 seater coupe with a full cage, aluminum block V8, no heavy electronic crap, stupide-gadgets, or idiot proof driver aids and throw in the suspension to back it up. Im all for more efficient vehicles but if these manufactures insist onbuilding something thats going to pollute and burn through fuel like Lindsey Lohan does booze after falling off the wagon then they should at least buildsomething with some balls. If im going to drive something like this it might as well be as fast and performance oriented as possible otherwise its just a POSwith an identity crises. These bumbling sissy crap luxo barges make me want to puke. The 2000 cobra R was the perfect example of what the modern muscle car should have been. No extras. No A/C. No rear seats. No radio. Docile and very capable ona road course. No BS! Sadly the numb skull execs at Ford saw it fit to kill their SVT division in favor of going "upscale" with their performanceline as they called it. Pffffffft! Yeah nice. Funny thing is the price of the new Shelby is about the only thing thats gone upscale because the car sure is alumbering slow POS. Thank you numb skull execs at Ford, GM, and Dodge for taking the last cool thing Americans were proud of that they could afford to own andmaking it another watered down fad only accessible to the few. RIP... -03-04 SVT Cobra AKA "The Terminator" -SVT Lightning -Cobra R
07-09-2008, 01:33 AM
jamwood1

Oh, I agree, I still tear up over the demise of Ford's SVT division and GM's SLP cars. My current dream is an '03-'04 Cobra with the terminatordrive train in Atlantic blue or mystichrome! If all I did was drive around in my car and street light drag race, I would love a stripped down, no frills muscle car. Unfortunately, real life has me doingmore transportation from point A to B type driving, and when my wife and son and I are all in the car, or I am going home after a long day at work, I am glad Ican turn on the A/C, turn up the radio, set the cruise, and enjoy a smooth ride....but it still has enough power to have fun when time permits! The big 3 in these times have no choice but to make what sells, and a stripped down perfomance car is too small of a market to be profitable.
07-09-2008, 08:50 PM
redlines68

2009 Camaro Body in White platform...$12,000 High output LS7 engine...+$17,000 T-56 transmission.... No charge 12 bolt rear with 5 link suspsension....+$4000 Radio delete ... No Charge console delete ... No charge rear seat delete...No Charge Appearance package delete/emblem delete ... -No charge insulation delete... No charge A/C delete... No charge tubular subframe reinforcements...+$800 6 point roll bar...+$800 Full racing harnessnes...+$200 Detachable steering wheel....+$350 Halon fire suppression system....+$1200 Power steering delete....No charge ABS delete... No charge Traction control delete....No charge 6 piston 4 wheel vented disk brakes... +$2000 B&M short throw shifter...+$200 HD mechanical clutch with lightened flywheel...+$800 Black powdercoated aluminum 3 piece American Racing style wheels with BFG heat cycled summer radials...$3000 Aluminum rear spoiler aka "Gurney Flap"...$300 15 gallon composite fuel cell....$400 You get 3 colors to pick from... -"Plane Jane White" -"Donahue Blue" -"Yunick Special": Black body with metallic gold roof .....+$1500 Until they offer something like this the "retro" cars will earn nothing from me but a big fat YAWN!
07-09-2008, 09:50 PM
jamwood1

12 bolt rear with 5 link suspsension....+$4000 tubular subframe reinforcements...+$800 6 point roll bar...+$800 Full racing harnessnes...+$200 Detachable steering wheel....+$350 Halon fire suppression system....+$1200 6 piston 4 wheel vented disk brakes... +$2000 B&M short throw shifter...+$200 HD mechanical clutch with lightened flywheel...+$800 Black powdercoated aluminum 3 piece American Racing style wheels with BFG heat cycled summer radials...$3000 Aluminum rear spoiler aka "Gurney Flap"...$300 15 gallon composite fuel cell....$400 These kinds of things is what the aftermarket is for. I think you expect way too much from the big 3 automakers. They are in the business of making passengercars for the general public, not drag cars for a niche market. It is a nice wish list, but I think it is up to your local speed shop or race shop to fit thebill, not the car dealership.
07-10-2008, 01:40 AM
redlines68

Wasnt the original idea of a muscle car about taking a 2 door coupe and packing all the performance into it that current technology of the era permitted andleaving everything else out? I must have missed something. The "modern muscle car" aka "ugly retro thing" is like everything else today. It has no idea what it is. Half (im being generous when i sayhalf) performance car. Half luxo barge/mid life crises mobile. The big thing that made a muscle car was that it was a "niche" vehicle. It wasnt madefor everyone. It had only one market of buyer that wanted the fastest factory hot rod they could get. Today its become this thing that tries to please everyoneand in that process its lost its appeal to the purists. Its the modern Thunderbird. It started as a fun little car without lots of options and slowly changedto accommodate more and more that "needed" extra junk and became something entirely different leaving its original appeal in the dust. Everything these days has to appeal to the masses. Its a very all or nothing world. Go to movies. Chances are the movie you see was screened to hundreds ofpeople and then cut down by studio execs to only leave in what had "mass appeal". The truth is the majority of the screening audience may have noteven like that genre of film to begin with, but because they didnt respond to certain elements the execs bring out the guillotine and lop off that scene. Thenby the time it hits theaters those loyal to the genre find it disappointing because it was molded into something to appeal to a more sweeping general audience.Its the same tale with the modern muscle car. They gave into the masses and forgot those that liked it for what it was and helped make it the success it was.Without the "niche" market of gear head purists the muscle car would have never been. But at least the masses love it. After all mass appeal isbetter.<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/sick.gif" alt="image"> The big 3 could at least offer lots of delete options for the rest of us that dont want to pay for crap we'd remove anyway. I dont think thats asking toomuch? I know it doesnt cost anything to build a car without this stuff.

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