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I'd go with vintage original. Of course the news one's with modern technology would be great, but there's just something about the original version!!
I lust for these two cars in that plum crazy color!
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My dream Cuda...
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There's another customizing company out there that works upgrading modifications,and body/paint on vintage or new Mopar, and even convertible conversions...but I'll be darned if I can remember the name now..dang. Their vintage work is incredible. I recall seeing red and black 68(?) Chargers..Wow..were they nice. Someone help me out here..lol.
Either way, good luck with your project.
F.
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That Magnum is a Awesome Mikebng. My boss drives one and it hauls a$$ in total comfort. I would always go with a classic though. Even though the "E" bodies are getting more expensive by the day there are still some great deals out there on the 72 through 74s. They are definitely going to go up in value as the 70 and 71s are getting very hard to find. Here is a couple pics of cars we built at work. Enjoy
Jeff
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WOW, thanks for the ideas. Lots of good stuff to look up and go on. Those two mopars are off the charts Scott....unbelieveable. Jeff, your work? Thats what you do for a living?
Jeff (toysalot), you have some good points....I wish it was that simple though LOL
The problem with buying vintage is I'd have to go with original...totally... maybe new paint. I collect old bikes as well, and there is nothing like old paint on the bike. Problem with most cars is that there is so much that could be changed out. I'm not that versed in vintage cars...but bikes I know inside out. I can tell when something is new and not NOS. From what I've found about vintage cars is that most of the time the cars are hacked up, rusted out and panels replaced...motors replaced...or upgraded...or bored out larger. New insides tore out and replaced with new. So really to find an original challenger is going to be very pricey and tough to spot. Usually the sellers are not very honest, but thats when a friend that knows cars inside out would come in handy. I know how to check numbers on the body and engine. But thats probably about it. I'm considering new because I can order everything I want and get it straight from the factory. And with the way these things run, I wouldn't expect the value to come down to much...and honestly...in the future about 20 years down the road....they may actually be worth more that paid...as long as there is low mileage... I don't know though.... eventually when we're crusty old, the vintage of today may be just as collectable as the new today. One never knows for sure. If we look at the 50s models today, has the price for those models came down in the 80s and 90s? I would think they are not as collectable today because the generation is leaving us...but I could be wrong.
No matter how it is said, I'd much rather have a vintage ride...no doubt about it....but I'd like to have a vintage ride that is reliable, original...and within my price range (which will be hard to find). If I cannot find that I'll probably go with a 2012 SRT...which really is sounding just as sweet just about now.
Here in Iowa, its tough to find clean rust free cars....really tough... However in Cali...there probably on every street corner... LOL The Iowa winters would destroy a car in 1 year. Big decisions...but either way, I would love both...just gotta have some patience and do some research.... its just such a tough search...for a nice vintage. Everything I've heard about the newer challengers have been great...people really love them.
Say, Jeff, your pictures aren't coming thru, can you try to repost?
Thanks
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My two cents only because you asked. I never cared for the 73-74 Mustangs, especially the El Grande. They rank right up there with leasure suits.
There are positives to a new car if you want. I'll let you in on a secret though. You can take them to car shows but everyone there with an old car is going to make fun of you behind your back.
Take your time. Look and look until you find what you really want. If that is a Charger or Challenger, you'll find something. If it's in another part of the country, get a buddy and go get it. I went on a 13 hour round trip to get my Honda Dream because I just couldn't find what I wanted any closer. I decided I wanted a CB750 recently. I watched eBay constantly. I wanted as early of one as I could get and still afford. I also wanted as original as possible.
After looking for months I finally found a 71 (production date 9/70) 2 hours from home. I looked at new bikes but I knew I just wouldn't be satisfied with one. I have a blast riding the 750. Part of the deal in buying an old car is listening to every strange sound it makes as you drive along. If that's not something you would like, buy the new car.
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Jimbo,
I would go with a vintage musclecar ... Hands down.
I like the Challenger or Charger idea. New cars are nice and they have the Technology however you can liken a new car to a 2011 first edition vs a classic musclecar to a redline .
If you decide to go with a vintage Mustang I would pass on the Grande and get a Mach 1 or fastback.
Grandes are nice but kind of subtle looking IMO
Good luck with your search!
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Vintage Challenger!!! The new ones just aren't the same. there is nothing like and old Mopar. Anyone can buy a new car and keep it nice. Find a 318 Challenger(or any Mopar for that matter), my Satellite(my signature) has a 318, and it runs really good. I've had no issues for the 20+ years I've owned it. She is getting a 440 with a stick(aftermarket 5 speed) eventually.
I personally would skip the Fords, but they have the advantage of reproducing just about every part(especially for 'Stangs), just like GM. So a restoration can be done with all new parts.
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Hey guys! Thanks again for the ideas. Helps a lot. 1Perry, I agree, but I don't really care if anyone laughs at me...it would probably beat 85% of them on the road LOL.... No really, its still a tough decision. A part of my decision is that I can easily get a loan for it thru their credit...buying a vintage car, most likely will be buying from a individual, in which I'll need to arrange some sort of financing. I can also trade in my truck thru the dealer also...which would help....I wouldn't need to sell outright. I'm gonna do some searching for vintage...and see what I can come up with. We have a few vintage restorers here in Iowa...some good ones...so I think I'll be able to see more clearer here when I get a chance to visit. I'm probably going to sell my collection of reds, save a few, Bought for 70K and will part for around 44... Will probably hit the LA show and sell...we'll see what my buddy (ssizzler) wants to do.
Thanks agian guys.
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We'll that's great to hear that you'll be at the LA convention!
Knowing you ...there will be some good dealing out of your room LOL!