You really want Obama to be the next President of the U.S.A?

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08-04-2008, 10:23 AM
Iamredliner

How long has Obama had "political" experience? He had been a Senator for 143 days when he started his campaign. Hell, he can't even talk thesubject when his teleprompter malfunctions. He doesn't have a clue "either". I have never been a flag waver for Bush. However, I shutter to thinkwhat Gore would have (or not have) done on 9/11. We haven't had another incident on our soil. He' no great President, got suckered into Iraq but thereyou go. Hillary was complaining that it took him too long to go after Osama in Iraq. They were bashing him for dragging his feet. Whomever they put in there,they will just be a puppet anyway to what Congress deicides he needs to do. The President is powerless or darn near that by the way this is all set up. He canmake a decision on what to do with the next intern, and that's about it.
08-04-2008, 11:41 AM
flatbrokebloke

Bruce, The fact that Obama has only been in office a short time is a selling point to voters. They don't see him as a "career" politician.They see him as a common man, stepping up to take on uncommon job... Yes you're correct, there hasn't been on US soil since 9-11-01. I think it may be the fact we're in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban. I feel goinginto Afghanistan was a good decision. Thats where the 9-11 attackers came from. I don't think going into Iraq was a good decision. I also think since wehave troops in Iraq, the zealots are going there and attacking our troops. Having them fight our armed and prepared troops is a more even fight than lettingthem attack unarmed civilians here. I don't feel the Iraqi people feel that way though. We're slugging it out with the terrorists in their backyard. Saddam was a thug plain and simple. His people lived under his barbaric government for decades. He's gone, good riddance. Why are we still there? We'respending money that is desperately needed here. The bridge collapse in Minnesota is a good example of our deteriorating infrastructure in the US. Some Americans still feel like like the 2000 election was a rip off. Then on top of that he's voted into a second term to cross his t's and dot hisi's and he's squandered his time. He thinks it's OK to tap phone lines with out a warrant, outs a CIA agent, watches the economy go to crap, and soon and so on. His contribution to stand with the American people against terrorists? He gives up golf. That's the kind of things I'm not happy about. I feel if McCain is elected this will just continue, and that's why the word change is being thrown around so much lately. I'm far from being aliberal, if anything I consider myself a moderate. Sure Obama may lack the experience, but that also may be the reason he is naive enough to think he maysomehow be able to make a difference.......
08-04-2008, 12:29 PM
bernardkappesjr

I think both of these guys, would be bad for our country. Mccain would be another 4 years of Bush. Obama, i just don't like or trust him. Obama withHillary, as a running mate would win. Obama without Hillary, McCain will beat him. That's why i vote for the 3rd party. Not going to win, but i feelbetter, about whom i've voted for.
08-04-2008, 02:12 PM
Charger68

These are the choices we voted for boys, excpet for gramps who is still holding out for Calvin Coolidge. I feel very uneasy about hearing talk aboutassassination on a board like this, it chills me and sends me back to the RFK days. And "political experience"? Just like Randy said, we don't WANT that kind of experience, we've had it for the last eight years. Later, Dave
08-04-2008, 02:28 PM
ziurtoys

 Insinuating a possible assassination on a President is a very bad thing to say!
08-04-2008, 04:31 PM
groggerbug

Boy, am I glad I wasn't around for this one!! Greg
08-04-2008, 04:34 PM
redlinejohnny6872

<blockquote> Charger68 wrote: <hr> These are the choices we voted for boys, excpet for gramps who is still holding out for Calvin Coolidge. I feel very uneasy about hearing talk about assassination on a board like this, it chills me and sends me back to the RFK days. And "political experience"? Just like Randy said, we don't WANT that kind of experience, we've had it for the last eight years. Later, Dave</blockquote> Keep Cool With Coolidge baby!<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/laugh.gif" alt="image">
08-04-2008, 05:32 PM
jotogodfrey

<blockquote> I feel very uneasy about hearing talk about assassination on a board like this, it chills me and sends me back to the RFK days.</blockquote>50 Cent has no problem with talking about it <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_freak.gif" alt="image"> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2xFZGxAnwh0&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" allowscriptaccess="never"></embed> O'Reilly's comes across as the bigger pinhead with his lame attempt at ebonics <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_lazysmile.gif" alt="image"> ~Joe
08-04-2008, 05:33 PM
outdoorelvis777

All thru this thread, there is one major difference between Obama and McCain that has not been addressed, forone reason or another. One that would scare the hell out of many if they knew all the implications. This is the elephant in Obama's room: His association with and influence from the Nation of Islam -yes, the one's who: <ul style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">Teach that Black people were the original humans</li></ul> <ul style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">Demand complete separation in a state or territory of their own</li></ul> <ul style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">Have a long, well-documented record of hate-filled and anti-Semitic rhetoric</li></ul> <ul style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in">Sold bean pies on the street corners in LA to help fund the riots of 1992</li></ul> While Obama has tried to down-play his association with NOI, it still remains strong. How will this play out if he were to become president? Frankly, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!!! <a target="_blank" href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html</a> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66167">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66167</a>
08-04-2008, 06:58 PM
rich492vs

CHANGE "We can Believe in" hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! "It's The End Of The World As We Know It. And I Feel Fine" These are Biblical times and I'm not Religious. Read what they say about the Anti-Christ. I see some similarities like Very Charismatic, Middle Easterndescent, Coming out from nowhere and having a huge flock of followers, "Rock Star figure" BAAAAAAAAAAAANK ON IT BABBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEE! Who knows for sure, I sure as hell don't. I just see things not getting that much better in the near future. I don't want anybody to claim I'mcalling anybody the Anti-Christ. I just don't like how things are politically as of now. Thanks for every body's comments. It's amazing howpolitics and religion can really make people crazy with words. I'm sorry if I stirred the pot on a stupid e-mail I got. Rich
08-04-2008, 06:59 PM
flatbrokebloke

That is some interesting reading Ron. I'm not good at posting links, could you post some links on the Bohemian Grove, and Skull and Bones? That is someinteresting reading too.
08-04-2008, 07:03 PM
sscont1

Elvis has officially, "left the building"!<img height="15" src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/coco.gif" width="23" alt="image"> Later, Steve
08-04-2008, 07:11 PM
sscont1

"These are Biblical times and I'm not Religious. Read what they say about the Anti-Christ. I see some similarities like Very Charismatic, MiddleEastern descent, Coming out from nowhere and having a huge flock of followers," Sorry dude, that is not from the Bible. And who are "they"? Later, Steve
08-04-2008, 07:13 PM
GrampaMike46

<blockquote> except for Gramps who is still holding out for Calvin Coolidge.</blockquote><img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/laugh.gif" alt="image">
08-04-2008, 07:16 PM
flatbrokebloke

Rich, I was wondering when someone was going to make that statement.. Took a little longer than I expected though.......<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image"> A thread was posted awhile back about a Cop killer in Ohio. A picture was posted of the killer on the thread with a Obama button on his lapel. Someone askedthe poster to remove the picture out of respect, and to not glorify the killer. Instead of doing so a "Sambo" face was used to cover his face and theObama button still remained. I said nothing..... A thread was posted about a good ole Irish joke. I took it as a joke and said nothing........ Then this thread came up, I'm sorry I just had to say something......
08-04-2008, 07:17 PM
Redline Whiteline

scott jones for parliamentary president in 2012 baby, and i will be his running mate. our slogan will be "together we kick ass and ask questionslater" we will build scotts ark, a large vessel not for saving animals but for deporting illegals. we round em up, ship em out, and half way there wesend the air force out for target practice.oooops, forgot the life rafts. ok who wants to be our campaign manager??? anyone??? <img src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/stirthepot.gif" alt="image"><img src="http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif" alt="image"><img src="http://death6.homestead.com/files/evil8.gif" alt="image">
08-04-2008, 07:20 PM
trizzbizzle

i'd have to see a slightly more reliable source of proof that obama is in bed with NOI other than a web blog stating an anonymous source for its info. ifit were true it would have hit mainstream and blown him out of the water. but hey, if you want to believe it bad enough, anything can be true.
08-04-2008, 07:28 PM
groggerbug

"Teach that Black people were the original humans" "Anti-christ" I find it hard to believe I'm reading this kind of rhetoric on a Board that I choose to be a member of.... W - O - W ! ! ! There's no good way torespond to that kind of paranoid dillusion... I'm an optimist, but this kind of talk really makes me feel that maybe there is indeed no hope for the humanrace... ignorance will assure self-destruction... Then again history shows that there have been thousands of cycles of different life forms coming and going on this planet, so maybe it fits right in with thegrand scheme of things. But I will always hope for enlightenment and peace... Greg
08-04-2008, 07:36 PM
gumpys

I agree with Johnny is he becomes President, some one will take him out, lol. Also, I can't believe our country is even thinking about having a Muslim runour country. This might sound stupid, but you never know, Obama might be part of the Taliban or have ties to it, you never know !!!!!. I say to hell withObama. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/roll.gif" alt="image"> Eirc
08-04-2008, 07:41 PM
sscont1

Holy freakin crap!! I can't believe what you just said!!!!!!
08-04-2008, 07:52 PM
groggerbug

It's hard to believe ANY of this.... someone remind me - is this 2008 or 1908? Or 1408??
08-04-2008, 07:54 PM
rich492vs

Here we go again!!!!!! Sorry!!!!! I'll just keep quite for now on about this subject. Agree? And besides, isn't the Anti-Chris in Revaluations? Rich
08-04-2008, 08:00 PM
PeepingScott

I'm having a Revelation, Chrish 2:84 "This post is finished" <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_freak.gif" alt="image">
08-04-2008, 08:01 PM
sscont1

" isn't the Anti-Chris in Revaluations? " No the "anti christ" is never mentioned in the book of Revelation. It is mentioned in the book of John though. You might be thinking of"the Beast" Later, steve
08-04-2008, 08:15 PM
rich492vs

Oh thanks. Sorry Again!
08-04-2008, 09:19 PM
outdoorelvis777

<blockquote> flatbrokebloke wrote: <hr> That is some interesting reading Ron. I'm not good at posting links, could you post some links on the Bohemian Grove, and Skull and Bones? That is some interesting reading too.</blockquote> This looks like a real cool place! I'd like to check it out sometime: <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove</a> In the 2004 U.S. Presidential election, both the Democratic and Republican nominees were alumni of the Skull and Bones: <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones</a> You mighty welcome, Randy. <img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/wavehello.gif" width="25" alt="image">
08-04-2008, 09:29 PM
outdoorelvis777

<blockquote> rich492vs wrote: <hr> CHANGE "We can Believe in" hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! "It's The End Of The World As We Know It. And I Feel Fine" These are Biblical times and I'm not Religious. Read what they say about the Anti-Christ. I see some similarities like Very Charismatic, Middle Eastern descent, Coming out from nowhere and having a huge flock of followers, "Rock Star figure" BAAAAAAAAAAAANK ON IT BABBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEE! Who knows for sure, I sure as hell don't. I just see things not getting that much better in the near future. I don't want anybody to claim I'm calling anybody the Anti-Christ. I just don't like how things are politically as of now. Thanks for every body's comments. It's amazing how politics and religion can really make people crazy with words. I'm sorry if I stirred the pot on a stupid e-mail I got. Rich</blockquote> Interesting you should bring this up: <a target="_blank" href="http://barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/">http://barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/</a><a target="_blank" href="http://barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/2008/05/barack-obama-antichrist-scripture.html" rel="nofollow"></a>
08-04-2008, 09:31 PM
outdoorelvis777

<blockquote> groggerbug wrote: <hr> Then again history shows that there have been thousands of cycles of different life forms coming and going on this planet, so maybe it fits right in with the grand scheme of things. Greg</blockquote> What the heII are you reading?!?!?!?<img height="20" src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/hmmm.gif" width="20" alt="image">
08-05-2008, 12:36 AM
oguzman

Sweet! I love the "ignore user posts" option. It just collapses the threads down to nothing and helps me keep the bigots identified.
08-05-2008, 02:27 AM
sverrefehn

Relax everyone, and keep on topic with no name calling or this thread WILL come to an end.
08-05-2008, 03:38 AM
jamwood1

<blockquote> gumpys wrote: <hr> I agree with Johnny is he becomes President, some one will take him out, lol. Also, I can't believe our country is even thinking about having a Muslim run our country. This might sound stupid, but you never know, Obama might be part of the Taliban or have ties to it, you never know !!!!!. I say to hell with Obama. <img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/roll.gif"> Eirc</blockquote> I think alot of people are confusing the US based political/religious group the Nation of Islam with which Obama is associated, and the middle easternbased religion Islam with which he is not associated. The most extreme members of the second group have produced Al Qaeda and the Taliban, not the firstgroup.
08-05-2008, 02:02 PM
6pak69

<blockquote> jamwood1 wrote: <hr><blockquote> gumpys wrote: <hr> I agree with Johnny is he becomes President, some one will take him out, lol. Also, I can't believe our country is even thinking about having a Muslim run our country. This might sound stupid, but you never know, Obama might be part of the Taliban or have ties to it, you never know !!!!!. I say to hell with Obama. <img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/roll.gif"> Eirc </blockquote> I think alot of people are confusing the US based political/religious group the Nation of Islam with which Obama is associated, and the middle eastern based religion Islam with which he is not associated. The most extreme members of the second group have produced Al Qaeda and the Taliban, not the first group.</blockquote> Sorry but thats not very comforting. The Nation of Islam is a radical group doing much of their recruiting in the federal prison system. They tend to berascists believing that black people are a superior race most favored in the eyes of Allah.They are considered to be heretics in the opinion of traditionalMuslims.This is due to the fact that the NOI has long considered their founder to be Allah in the flesh.---mike
08-05-2008, 02:47 PM
jamwood1

<blockquote> 6pak69 wrote: <hr><blockquote> jamwood1 wrote: <hr><blockquote> gumpys wrote: <hr> I agree with Johnny is he becomes President, some one will take him out, lol. Also, I can't believe our country is even thinking about having a Muslim run our country. This might sound stupid, but you never know, Obama might be part of the Taliban or have ties to it, you never know !!!!!. I say to hell with Obama. <img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/roll.gif"> Eirc </blockquote> I think alot of people are confusing the US based political/religious group the Nation of Islam with which Obama is associated, and the middle eastern based religion Islam with which he is not associated. The most extreme members of the second group have produced Al Qaeda and the Taliban, not the first group. </blockquote> Sorry but thats not very comforting. The Nation of Islam is a radical group doing much of their recruiting in the federal prison system. They tend to be rascists believing that black people are a superior race most favored in the eyes of Allah.They are considered to be heretics in the opinion of traditional Muslims.This is due to the fact that the NOI has long considered their founder to be Allah in the flesh.---mike </blockquote> All true Mike and I agree with you 100%, but I was responding to Eric's comment that because Obama is associated with muslims he could be Taliban. I was just pointing out the fact that the NOI and traditional Islam are two very different groups and the latter doesn't even recognize the former. If Igot to choose, I would rather that he was connected to the NOI than radical Islamic extremists such as the Taliban, etc.
08-05-2008, 02:49 PM
6pak69

OK. I understand.---mike
08-05-2008, 03:04 PM
6pak69

I would never vote for any Muslim to be president of the U.S.A. Separation of church and state is a Christian principle which is inherent to Americanexperience. It allows for people to follow the religion of their choice. Or to follow no religion. It is entrenched in the Bill of Rights and theConstitution.Muslims believe in a Theocracy. Government and religion are one. The religon is the Muslim faith. All laws and politics are a direct reflectionof the Koran.The question is -Do you want the type of Government that is currently in place in every Muslim country in the world?I am not suggesting that Obamais a Muslim or even that he has Muslim ties. His position seems to be very confusing.---mike
08-05-2008, 03:24 PM
daspanic

I hate politics....I love this country...I love the Constitution. Most people in this country are too stupid to pick a candidate...and electronic voting machines are rigged far too easily. Besides...the "sanctioned"candidates are far too similar to make much difference anyway. What we need is a real third party involved. But until that day comes....be very afraid indeed......
08-05-2008, 03:50 PM
6pak69

I don't think that Canadians are any better off at this point. You folks have a real head scratcher come November. I would vote for Ron Paul if Icould.---mike
08-05-2008, 05:12 PM
jotogodfrey

<blockquote> I hate politics....I love this country...I love the Constitution. Most people in this country are too stupid to pick a candidate...and electronic voting machines are rigged far too easily. Besides...the "sanctioned" candidates are far too similar to make much difference anyway. What we need is a real third party involved. But until that day comes....be very afraid indeed......</blockquote>Ahhhh.....Most enlightened reply this thread's seen in a while now <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_biglaugh.gif" alt="image"> WTG Dave <img src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/thumbsup.gif" alt="image"> ~Joe
08-05-2008, 06:05 PM
Charger68

What do you know about the "American Experience" Mike?? Later, Dave
08-05-2008, 07:08 PM
JPCHUCK

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