What would your decision be....

Oh for god sakes, now you want to rid the world of guns? Thats brilliant, make the law abiding citizens fork over their protection, take away one of theirconstitutional rights, and make it to where only THE CRIMINALS will have guns, as they dont care about the law and wont turn the guns in.

Andy, once again.....come back to planet Earth!!!!! getting rid of guns is not the answer!! i believe it was already mentioned in this never ending and everevolving monster that Great Brittian outlawed guns, and now the use of guns in crimes is out of control. i wouldn't open up this arguement...because youare gonne lose and lose big!!!

Where's Dave?

Wait a minute, Drew is on to something here. Let's start with THE guns, what's next? I've never liked chainsaws in the hands of the wrong guy. Whatsay you about hammers? Oh, cars are very dangerous and kill far more than guns do. Ice picks? Not a very safe tool in my eyes. Bullwhips? A zombie tossenaround a bullwhip is an accident waiting to happen.<br>This isn't the answer.....Bullwhips don't kill, people with bullwhips do the killin! "People" bein the key word in the phrase.

yeah...lets take everyones car away.....yeah..yeah!!!!! while were at it, lets just take away ANYTHING that has the potential to kill someone!! we'll allbe naked sitting on our asses!!!! then maybe Andy would be happy....or maybe not. i'm sure we'll find out soon!!!

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">deputyrob wrote:</strong> <hr> yeah...lets take everyones car away.....yeah..yeah!!!!! while were at it, lets just take away ANYTHING that has the potential to kill someone!! we'll all be naked sitting on our asses!!!! then maybe Andy would be happy....or maybe not. i'm sure we'll find out soon!!!</blockquote><p> Rob, you're a Police Officer, I'm not,.............please speculate as to why it's pretty much unaninmous amongst the members of The PoliceChiefs Association of Canada and some politicians as to why they want all handguns taken away and why they want every gun owner to register their long guns.And the last time I thought about it, I don't remember hearing of someone robbing a bank with a chainsaw! WHY do Canadian gun owners not want to registertheir long guns. Tell me, they have the same mindset as gun owners in the US...............</p>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">adamsredlines wrote:</strong> <hr> Oh for god sakes, now you want to rid the world of guns? Thats brilliant, make the law abiding citizens fork over their protection, take away one of their constitutional rights, and make it to where only THE CRIMINALS will have guns, as they dont care about the law and wont turn the guns in.</blockquote><p> Okay , some of you guys who don't read posts, or don't comprehend what they're reading, where did 'I' say I that I wanted to rid'the world' of guns? Did anyone read what I said about what to do with, and who might have guns, (implied other than Police and Military)? Do me afavour, keep all those stolen and illegal handguns that flood the streets of the US outta my country and from flooding the streets here<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image">! Can you do that? No, why not?</p>

Chris and Adam hit the nail on the head!<br><br>First off theres just no way to eliminate firearms from existence. Like Adam said you ban the guns and the next thing you know the criminals become the ONLYpeople armed. You just gave the ultimate power to the bad guys. They dont give a damn about obeying laws. Hell most criminals own illegal weapons with theserial # filed off so what do they care if you make it illegal to posses a gun period.<br><br>Second to banish every gun in existence wouldnt it require a government entity that is armed to collect the weapons? Theyd have to be armed to battle it outwith irate citizens that didnt want to give up thier constitutional rights. So now you have a full blown war in the U.S. AND EVERY OTHER NATION between peopletrying to collect the weapons and civilians not wanting to give in. It would be a total bloodbath! Now lets say this global entity finally was able to round upEVERY GUN IN CIVILIAN hands. Now what? You expect them to destroy their own weapons as well? Why should they? Who's to say this global gun collection armyisnt lead by some kind of power hungry wacko thats just waiting to dominate and enslave us all once he has the exclusive access to firearms? So you had aglobal war where millions are killed trying to defend their rights to own firearms for what? All to be enslaved by a armed force in the end. That waspointless!<br><br>So now that its been established theres no way in hell youd ever be able to ban firearms 100% lets discuss why banning them wont make a rats ass difference.Note this is based off the assumption that you could magicly somehow eliminate EVERY GUN IN THE WORLD. Andy the firearm has only been around for a few hundredyears. Some of the bloodiest battles were fought before the firearm was even a idea. People were killed, kings had traitors hung, robbers pillaged and lootedvillages, and god knows what other crimes were committed. And get this.... <span style="font-weight: bold;">these folks never had guns</span>. They had swords.And before they had swords to fight each other they had spears. And before they had spears to fight each other they had rocks. As Chris said theres alot ofthings that could be considered a deadly weapon. So lets say the guns are banned and theres no more firearms. What do you do when people start crafting bow andarrows and rob the mini mart with them? Ban bows and arrows? Well then they start carrying around swords. Now what? Do you ban swords and all knife likeobjects like dinner ware and razors for shaving ? How am i supposed to shave or eat a steak? Now they start crafting knives and spears from sharpening rocksand sticks. Lemme guess what the solution is. Ban rocks and sticks? Hahahaha! What about when we just start using fire as a weapon? Do you ban fire? Yay! Weall get to freeze and die! Sign me up!<br><br>Mankind will manage to create a weapon when he is dis allowed other ones. By banning guns you accomplish nothing other than man turning to other weapons tokill and commit crime with. Theres so many items on planet earth that a person can fashion into a weapon for killing that its just pointless. To be successfulyoud have to lobotomize all of us and stick us in bare isolated cells so we have access to no materials of any sort. The gun did not create crime. Crime washere long ago before the evil firearm showed up. I know your intentions are well meaning but Andy thats just not realistic. We dont live in a Utopian world.Wars are waged and crimes are committed. Maybe if the earth is still standing in a few thousand years it may very well be a 100% peaceful society. But for nowwe have a long way to go before banning weapons is an option.<br><br>And what about zombies? How are we gonna fight the un dead with no weapons? Im not going to be eatin by those puss bags because someone took my right to makeand own weapons away! Uuuuuuughhhhh brains!<br>

<br><blockquote> Okay , some of you guys who don't read posts, or don't comprehend what they're reading, where did 'I' say I that I wanted to rid 'the world' of guns? Did anyone read what I said about what to do with, and who might have guns, (implied other than Police and Military)? Do me a favour, keep all those stolen and illegal handguns that flood the streets of the US outta my country and from flooding the streets here<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image">! Can you do that? No, why not?</blockquote><p>LOL. Even better. Congratulations we just give the exclusive power to firearm possession to the government! Now what do we do when they start taking awayother rights and pulling crap like genocide? Ohhh wait we cant do anything because we gave the power away to the government. Yay! Hello dictatorship! Goodbyefreedom!<br></p>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">redlines68 wrote:</strong> <hr><br><blockquote> Okay , some of you guys who don't read posts, or don't comprehend what they're reading, where did 'I' say I that I wanted to rid 'the world' of guns? Did anyone read what I said about what to do with, and who might have guns, (implied other than Police and Military)? Do me a favour, keep all those stolen and illegal handguns that flood the streets of the US outta my country and from flooding the streets here<img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif">! Can you do that? No, why not? </blockquote> <p>LOL. Even better. Congratulations we just give the exclusive power to firearm possession to the government! Now what do we do when they start taking away other rights and pulling crap like genocide? Ohhh wait we cant do anything because we gave the power away to the government. Yay! Hello dictatorship! Goodbye freedom! <br></p></blockquote><p> </p> Justin,..............After reading these last 2 posts, I must say a couple of things. First, are you sure you want to join the Military? You reallydo have a phenominal talent for writing and expressing yourself, and are able to add the element of humour. You may not have read a comment I said months agoon the same topic. If and when the Government decides, and if the Military concurs to squash the population, you and all the guns you have in your 2 handscannot stop a tank or other form of armoured assuault vehicle thats sitting outside your front door with the barrel pointed at you and your house, you andyours will have absolutely NO recourse. Now at least my ability to build and fire an RPG gives me an edge on you buddy, but, not even that would be enough todefend myself. You point a gun and fire at them, and you'll draw their fire and be dead instantly, and if you're not lucky enough to die, then thesight of your still connected intestines wrapped around the legs of the table will at least cause you to pass out. That idea doesn't fly any more in thisage of advanced weaponry. What armed vigilant citizenry you speak of was relevant to the formative years of the US and up through the earlier 1900s, but asI've explained, is now an obsolete method of thinking. You, and the boys, bring up some very good arguments, and some that really, deep down, I don'tnecessarily disagree with, don't misundertake me Doctor! I've hunted and fired guns many times. It's kinda fun, although I get bored with it fast.I can understand though that if that's a way a guy gets his fun or whatever, sense of security, that's his thing. I don't have a prob with that.I've always wanted to fire a machine gun, I'd like to have gone down to the Vegas Poker thing. I'm no pansy assed bleeding heart liberal type, Ijust agree with a lot of the propositions on gun control. After all, we are arguing each other on the same side of the fence. Neither of us is the gun toting'criminal' types. Wanna protect your family, read what I said about the Black Banana! I'm very busy today and will be back soon. This thread haspotential. The monster it had become has been wrestled into submission. Andy<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/happy.gif" alt="image">