Man beheaded on Manitoba bus

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title"><strong class="quote-title">Playz</strong> with Carz wrote:</strong> <hr> .... And today I hear he was only charged with SECOND degree murder !!!!! <br><br> What the hell do you have to do to get nailed with FIRST degree ??? <br><br><br> Mark.</blockquote><p> Kill everyone on the bus I guess.?????? <img height="20" src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/hmmm.gif" width="20" alt="image"></p>

Second degree is the correct charge. First degree is premeditated murder,which this was not. It is very difficult to make a first degree murder charge stick inthis day and age. The crown has to prove that the killer made a plan beforehand and acted on it.---mike<br>

Yeah, I heard it all over CNN as well. I'm wondering what the motive was. Man this is SICK!!! People are just loosing it lately with the way the economyis. I doubt the economy had anything to do with this though. Sick sick SICK!!!!!!<br><br><br>Rich

I don't know really what's worse, the guy who did this or the passengers who sat on their collective asses and did absolutely nothing, but WATCH somedude attack a 22 year old kid? Seriously, I don't have clue what makes someone not want to aid another, let alone one that is being killed, and you sitliterally inches away, watching......

I dont think you have enough facts to conclude that the victim could have been helped by his fellow passengers. Also, most folks wont step in to stop a littleold lady from getting her purse snatched. Its easy for you to judge the passengers on that bus from the safety your armchair. Its another thing entirely torush in when the blood and gore are flying.Don't be too quick to judge.---mike<br>

I don't see how people could just not do anything as well. I mean, how could you not? Plus, strength in numbers will always prevail in something likethis...AND, by the time the cops show up, the knife guy would probably be dead, thus eliminating a trial and the costs associated with housing these scumbagsfor 20+ years...<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eyes.gif" alt="image"><br><br><br><br><br><img src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_freak.gif" alt="image"><br>

Mike,<br>sounds like the victim didn't stand a chance. Neither should the assailant have. he should have been dead on the spot.<br>It is amazing how most people won't do anything. I mean HE HAD A KNIFE. I could see if he had a gun, but a knife, that guy could have been stopped easy.

<strong>I don't want to cause any controversy between Canadians and Americans, as i have some great friends North of the border........<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image"><br><br>But i will say this.........<br><br>When that one plane that was Hi-Jacked on 9/11/01, likely heading toward the White House on a mission of death and destruction, and in the face of that death,a handful of Americans took matters into their own hands, and took down the terrorists, knowing full well they were going to die.......<br><br>"Let's roll", is what they said, and Neil Young (a Canadian, i think?) even wrote a song about them, with that title........<br><br>Has Canada become so passive a country, with guns and the death penalty outlawed, that Her citizens can just sit there and watch death happen right beforetheir eyes? Without doing anything at all?<br><br>I certainly hope not, as you were there right along side of the U.S.A., during the First and Second World Wars, fighting and dying right along with us, as wellas surviving with us........<br><br>June 6th, 1944, comes to mind, as one example of our comraderi together........<br><br>A lot of Americans, and Canadians, died together that day, so that we could and can enjoy the freedoms we have today...........<br></strong><br><strong>A winning team we are, and i like that just fine........<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/happy.gif" alt="image"></strong>

Johnny I think that in MOST places given that same scenario people would just not get involved. Most people are predominately wusses.

I think most people were in shock, since the guy hadn't shown any signs of being nuts. They were all having a smoke break together an hour before. Like oneguy said, "One minute I'm watching Zorro, the next I hear a bloodcurdling scream." The passengers made sure not to put any of the children orothers on the bus in more danger. The driver disabled the vehicle so he couldn't end up on some dangerous chase putting even more people in danger.<br><br>But seriously, if some guy comes after you with a hunting knife in one hand and somebody's head in the other, are you really going to try to fight him?