Hubby's new car

<p><font color="#990033">I've always believed that somehow the oil companies are influencing the American car companies to not make a fuel efficient car. Look at the European car brands, all of their cars are efficient. Even the sporty ones. Yes, I am aware that many of the European cars are diesel and I know that gasoline over there is 2-3 times the cost of the USA. The bottom line is that the mileage of the smallest American cars isn't that great when you look at what Renault, Fiat, Peugeot,Seat,VW,etc are getting for their small cars. I just can't believe that Americans don't want fuel efficient cars. <br><br><br>maribell</font></p>

To A LOT of people, gas mileage isn't at the tops of their list. Utility, power, comfort, and style are important also...something certain cars can't deliver....unless you are short and your idea of utility is carrying a few grocery bags. :)

Hmmm.... I'm 6'-4" and am perfectly comfortable in a Honda that averages 32-33 mpg, and I recently moved, using mostly my car, which, being a hatchback, has an unbelievably large cargo capacity... And it's also cool looking (that being largely a matter of personal opinion) and acceleration is more than adequate for traffic needs. So let's tally it up here.... utility, power, comfort, style... whaddaya know??

Any Honda I've sat in my head was through the roof. Just because you can get on the interstate doesn't mean its powerful....not even close. Cargospace? Rrriiiiiigggght. Won't even get started there. We all know you both have a hardon for all things unamerican but it really gets old, comparing apples to oranges.

Well, Maribell's complaint that or statement that they bought the Honda because it was nearly 10K less than the Ford is valid. My first choice would be the Ford but I wouln't pay that much difference either. The price of the Ford hopefully will soon get in line with the other Hybrids.

<font color="#cc0000">$10,ooo less and also ONLY the Civic HYBRID and the PRIUS (and the original Insight and Tesla) qualify for the HOV lane in NY. Adam, you're single and very young and by your posts, you make a lot of money and you don't have as many obligations as myself and others on this board. So 10 grand is alot of money. To me, gas mileage is very, very important. I just can't spend money on a car that delivers poor mileage. If you're happy spending hundreds of dollars per week gassing up your truck and Magnum wagon, good for ya! To me, I need to save that money to spend it on my mortgage, heating oil, kids college, etc, etc. The cost of living on Long Island ,NY is much higher than in Texas too. <br><br><br>maribell</font>

"We all know you both have a hardon for all things unamerican " <br> <br> Ooh, low blow Adam. By the way, where is your computer made? Your phone? your TV? The radio/stereo system in your truck? Anyway, for Honda, if you were referring to me, well yes I have a "hardon" for their cars. Guilty. I also love Toyotas . I know that I can buy one and sell it in 2 years and recover the majority of the selling price. How much can you get for your Magnum when it's 2 years old? If you took a loan out on your Magnum, make sure that you have gap insurance because if it's stolen or wrecked, you are going to owe more money on the loan than what the insurance is going to pay ya. Your truck, well , it's worth alot cause you have made many modifications to you. But if you had that truck all stock and original,how much would it be worth now? I'm guessing that you know your way around the engine compartment. So if you have a problem with either of your cars, you can easily fix it. Or you have friends that are mechanic. Well , can't do that. We have a car problem, we have to go to Goodyear or STS or Firestone. I have discovered that the best way to avoid those shops is to own a Honda or a Toyota.<br><br>Adam, not everyone has money like you do. Bless you and enjoy it but once the kids come , you have other obligations. We just can't throw money away.<br><br><br>Also personally, I would drive the smallest car that fit my needs just to avoid the oil rich companies/countries from making extra money. I would rather spend my extra money on anything but gasoline. All 3 of our Hondas fit our needs perfectly . We're a small family. We don't go camping or have big dogs to transport or tow a boat. If we did these things, of course, we would have to buy a bigger vehicle. By the way, 2 of the 3 Hondas that we own were made in Ohio... and our Camry was made in Kentucky.<br><br><br><br>Anyway, the post was supposed to show off the new car. Just like others have shown off their new cars, I wanted to show this one off. <br><br>By the way, when hubby had an accident in 2008, he was given a free rental car . The car was a Magnum. It was costing him nearly 20 dollars in gasoline a day! After a week, he returned it for a Corolla. Driving into NYC everyday is very expensive if you have a car with poor gas mileage.<br><br><br><br>maribell

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<hr><p><font color="#990033">I've always believed that somehow the oil companies are influencing the American car companies to not make a fuel efficient car. Look at the European car brands, all of their cars are efficient. Even the sporty ones. Yes, I am aware that many of the European cars are diesel and I know that gasoline over there is 2-3 times the cost of the USA. The bottom line is that the mileage of the smallest American cars isn't that great when you look at what Renault, Fiat, Peugeot,Seat,VW,etc are getting for their small cars. I just can't believe that Americans don't want fuel efficient cars. <br><br><br>maribell</font></p></blockquote>Maribell it is funny because Chevy once bought all the Cable/Trolly car companies and shut them all down so people would need to buy cars. I agree something is up as I cant figure out why in 100 yrs we cant make a more efficient engine? I also own "Forieng" cars - A CRV for the wifes long commute and a Nissan Titan that was cheaper than any other truck that was an extended cab. I have to say Adan that the American car companies screwed up and have been for 30 yrs, since the oil shortage. They let the others compete and deliver great reliable cars. Just recently Toyota was selling more cars than GM. Though toyota just screwed up and may end up at the bottom of the heap with this crazy recall. In Consumer reports every Honda , EVERY ONE, was recommended as a buy car....no other car company can say that. And they are quite roomy. I am 6'1" but have a long torso and have nothing but room in my wifes crv and lots of room in the back. And double the room of my Chevy truck in head room in the Titan.<br><br>Congrats on the buy, but I think Hybrid and electric cars arent the answer. Especially Electric cars because they are powered by horribly ungreen batteries and you need to plug them in, which uses electricity which comes from coal and oil.<br><br>

I dpnt spend "hundreds a week on gas", your blind claims about me and my life couldn't be further from the truth. I drive 27 miles each way to work and use about 40 in gas a week. It averages 25 mpg on the highway, has 3x the hp and torque that a Honda does, can tow a trailer and whatever else I so desire. I know my situation is different than most but that doesn't mean I enjoy pissing money away. If I was made of money like you claim I wouldn't have bought a 5 year old car...but since I'm not made of money, that's what I could afford. Wanna talk about expensive? I priced out a 2dr accord....and to get one in the pricerange I was looking for, it had 2x the miles of the Magnum and was 5 years older....so how does that make sense?<br>
Then there's utility....you can't beat it. Id love to see you or greg haul half of what I have, and to me and a lot of others, being able to haul cargo is worth sacraficing a few mpg....especially when you can still cruise at 80+ while loaded down with more than any honda or toyota could dream of.

Aah and for the mechanic...my truck has never been to one, nor have I done any "repairs". Sure I upgrade a lot of stuff but the truck has been flawless.<br>
And for the Magnum....ok I had an axle seal and inner tierod replaced for a whopping $150...so I guess that's just pissing money away.<br><br>
Oh yeah, did you know a lot of the Magnums components are Mercedes Benz? Transmission, differential, brakes...but even still you talk down on it.<br><br>
As for my experience with vehicles, of my families vehicles, the only ones that have had to go to the shop are my moms VW, her Lexus and my sisters Civics and my sisters Mitsubishi. Not my Dodges or my dads Fords...gee, imagine that.