Man beheaded on Manitoba bus

<strong>I'd like to think that someone, or two or three, might have prevented that scenario from happening, even if it was too late initialy for thevictim........<br><br>That would apply to either side of the border too, rest assured that i'm not picking on my friends and allies from above.........<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/happy.gif" alt="image"></strong>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">redlinejohnny6872 wrote:</strong> <hr><strong>I don't want to cause any controversy between Canadians and Americans, as i have some great friends North of the border........<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image"><br><br> But i will say this......... <br><br> When that one plane that was Hi-Jacked on 9/11/01, likely heading toward the White House on a mission of death and destruction, and in the face of that death, a handful of Americans took matters into their own hands, and took down the terrorists, knowing full well they were going to die....... <br><br> "Let's roll", is what they said, and Neil Young (a Canadian, i think?) even wrote a song about them, with that title........ <br><br> Has Canada become so passive a country, with guns and the death penalty outlawed, that Her citizens can just sit there and watch death happen right before their eyes? Without doing anything at all? <br><br> I certainly hope not, as you were there right along side of the U.S.A., during the First and Second World Wars, fighting and dying right along with us, as well as surviving with us........ <br><br> June 6th, 1944, comes to mind, as one example of our comraderi together........ <br><br> A lot of Americans, and Canadians, died together that day, so that we could and can enjoy the freedoms we have today........... <br></strong> <br><strong>A winning team we are, and i like that just fine........<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/happy.gif" alt="image"></strong></blockquote><p> Actually in the Second World War it was the U.S who came along side with Canada after we had been at war in Europe for almost two years. Imagine waking upon that bus to the sound of screaming. You look back and see a man cutting the throat of the person beside him. Blood everywhere.Only room for one person inthe aisle. You have a pillow or duffle bag to protect yourself. Now you see that the victims head has been nearly severed from his body. You are going tocharge down the aisle and confront him single handed? Maybe. But I doubt it. Everyone else got off the bus safely.Several people took it upon themselves tograb makeshift weapons.They kept the killer on the bus till the RCMP arrived. Then they kept him contained till the response team got there. Remember wedon't carry guns here.Which probably is a good thing. Otherwise a few passengers would have got shot. You don't need to worry Johnny.Theres no shortageof courageous people in Canada. Wait for a few more facts to come out before passing judgement.---mike<br></p>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">redlinejohnny6872 wrote:</strong> <hr><strong>I'd like to think that someone, or two or three, might have prevented that scenario from happening, even if it was too late initialy for the victim........ <br><br> That would apply to either side of the border too, rest assured that i'm not picking on my friends and allies from above.........<img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/happy.gif"></strong></blockquote><p> If it's too late for the victim,then what's the point in risking your or another life? That makes no sense to me J.</p><p>As I'm reading from the story,he already took swipes at others before they locked him in the bus and disabled it.</p><p> From the sounds of things,the poor victim was probably <em>sitting dead</em> before most of the bus even realized what was going on in the back.</p><p> The guy obviously has a head full of bad wiring. 6 feet..big.. and weilding a large bloodied knife that he already dispatched one with..Would you reallygo at him? This wasn't a 911 style attack,not even close,no how. Let's not over react here. Horrible..yes. But probably the only time this has EVERhappened in Canada.</p><p> The way I see it,they were lucky..unfortunately for Tim..to keep the carnage to one.</p><p> F~</p>

<strong>Glad to hear that the others made it out safely, and kept the maniac contained inside the bus, i did read that in the story..........<br><br>A head full of bad wiring for sure, to say the least, and i'll be the first to admit that it could have happened anywhere, at anytime, as it seems thatthis is the year of the mass murder in the United States.........<br><br>Happened right here in Los Angeles, earlier in the year, not far from me, when a 20 year old went berserk, killing his father, 2 brothers, and a L.A.P.D.S.W.A.T. officer, and in turn was killed by them.........<br><br>I could go on and on, just for 2008 alone........<br><br>It's a crazy World for sure, no matter where you are, and no judgement has been passed here, a simple question asked only........<br><br>It has been answered, so i'm done here, thanx........<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/happy.gif" alt="image"></strong>

<blockquote> But seriously, if some guy comes after you with a hunting knife in one hand and somebody's head in the other, are you really going to try to fight him?</blockquote>YES! Thats the problem the the people in the world today nobody wants to get involved. It was a knife not a gun!!

<blockquote> <font color="#FF0033"><font color="#FF0033">Capital punishment...... Ah, you guys don't have that.. Too bad.... I personally would gladly foot the electricity bill.</font></font></blockquote><font color="#0000FF"><font size="4">Ah yes, Capital Punishment. Like the army private who was sentenced to death for raping 8 and murdering 4back in 1988 and then TWENTY YEARS LATER president Bush gave permission for him to be executed. What's the point of Capital Punishment if you're goingto wait so long to put the person to death?? Meanwhile he's enjoying all the same things you're complaining about our prisoners enjoying. May as welljust sentence them to life in prison cuz they'll probably end up dying of old age or some disease like cancer before being put to death.<br></font><br></font><font color="#0000FF" size="4">We can all say what we want about those people on the bus but we weren't there. We're always so quick tojudge others but you can only SPECULATE what you would have done. Everybody always wants to be the hero but if the time came for you to have your chance, wouldit really go the way you imagine it in your head? You don't know until you're in that situation. The guy was sitting at the back of the bus with thevictim. By the time people realized what was going on he was most likely already dead. Why risk more deaths unneccesarily? Getting everybody off the bus andkeeping the psycho inside was probably the smartest thing they could have done. I sure wouldn't want to be in any of their shoes. I'd be needing somemajor therapy if I witnessed what they did. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/frown.gif" alt="image"><br><br><br>~Karen</font>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">CHEVY57 wrote:</strong> <hr><blockquote> But seriously, if some guy comes after you with a hunting knife in one hand and somebody's head in the other, are you really going to try to fight him? </blockquote>YES! Thats the problem the the people in the world today nobody wants to get involved. It was a knife not a gun!!</blockquote><p> Someones been watching way too many Jackie Chan movies.There are very few people who have the skill to challenge a man with a knife and live to tell aboutit.. Or are you implying that a knife wound doesn't hurt as much as a bullet wound??---mike<br></p>

Well........something DID happen similar to that right here in Texas. I believe it was in Killeen, TX. This sick bastard came in to a restaurant and startedblasting innocent people. Well.......one guy had the license to carry. That guy took him out. end of shootings. If somebody had the license to carry on thatbus, maybe the victim would still be dead but the sorry bastard killer would be on his way to hell right now. What's next? Outlaw all knives? That killermight have just as well had a gun. Oh yeah, that's right......I forgot....it's illegal to have a gun in Canada. I'm sure this killer didn'twant to break "that" law. All the while he was holding the head of that guy.

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">Iamredliner wrote:</strong> <hr> Well........something DID happen similar to that right here in Texas. I believe it was in Killeen, TX. This sick bastard came in to a restaurant and started blasting innocent people. Well.......one guy had the license to carry. That guy took him out. end of shootings. If somebody had the license to carry on that bus, maybe the victim would still be dead but the sorry bastard killer would be on his way to hell right now. What's next? Outlaw all knives? That killer might have just as well had a gun. Oh yeah, that's right......I forgot....it's illegal to have a gun in Canada. I'm sure this killer didn't want to break "that" law. All the while he was holding the head of that guy.</blockquote><p> It is illegal to carry knives in Canada as well. I don't think you want to try and defend U.S gun laws and use Texas as the poster child do you? Youare going to have a tough time.---mike<br></p>

Mike:<br>No. No intent there at all. I am merely making a point that gun laws don't work. In fact, why is it that college campuses are considering having licensedgun carrying people on campus? The Virginia Tech incident would have bee a lot shorter if somebody was able to "take him out". Plus, ..............ifcriminals "know" there is the possibility of somebody packing heat, they might think twice about doing it. When they KNOW nobody is packing they staband behead people on buses whenever they feel like it.