What would your decision be....

There is a prison where the warden makes the men wear pink if they "act up" in prison, and the inmates cooled off, alot.<br>I agree with Chris though, prison is a better way of life for some, its a free ride where you get to hang with your buddies/partners in crime.<br>I remember once when visiting Memphis, there was a guy sitting out front of the Civil Rights Museum (no joke) just sitting there, obviously with nowhere to go.The police came and told him he'd have to leave or they would take him to jail. He ASKED THEM TO TAKE HIM TO JAIL because it would be better than the lifehe was leading on the street...how messed up is that? I didnt see this on the news, or a magazine, I saw it with my own two eyes on Beale Street.<br>Prison is just a lifetime stay at the Holiday Inn, except you dont have to pay for it.

That's is genuinely funny Chris, with the exception of the PPV thing. That is truly barbaric, and I'll tell you why, because there are a helluva lottapeople of all ages that witnessing that sort of stuff would cause a lotta psychological damage, you'd wind up having cowed your society. That reminds meof an episode of an old original Star Trek, where Kirk and the gang encounter that planet populated with Nazis that televise,.........The Games. You know whatgames they are. Just like in ancient Rome where, in the Colliseum men are pit against each other with weapons, or are thrown in with a lion or whatever. Romeis the First Holy Roman Empire, Hitler in Germany was the 3rd Holy Roman Empire, all Nazis. Surely this is the kind of thing you wouldn't want. I heardabout those people at the bus stop killed yesterday you talk of. What is the precursor that determined the killer's orientation? Now Jamie, 2 things.1)This is Rob's thread, so I have no idea why 'you' in particular are concerned with which way the thing goes. I think Rob would say something. What you may think is off topic due to a short attention span or something, may not be. Are you not able to think beyond the box or page, are you stuck in arut someone dug for you? and 2) Don't give me this envious of the US thing, I hope you're just kidding, because if you're not and that was aserious comment, which by the way, is off topic and certainly not worthy of a response, you're the one now outta line. Grab your sweater or shirt whereyour nipples are, pull outwards and utter the words with a German accent "Yaaa, I am a little girl", because dude, that's what your'Envy' comment reduces your credibility to. You sound like you belong to some fashionista clique of snotty women not uncommon to law firms or the sort.Oh, I've got something you don't, and I enjoy watching your envy. I guess the name Jamie is one of those unisexual names, so unless I see thatyou're a guy, I'll assume you're plumbing doesn't match! Gotta go, Back soon! Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

Once again Andy, you cannot muster an intelligent response. I responded directly to statement made by you, I did not attack you personally out of nowhere, Ijust reacted to your rhetoric. Yes, I was serious about the comments I made about your envy. You posted a 3 paragragh rant about my country. I would not dothat to you nor will I not respond being proud of my country.<br><br>All in all, you have no credibility whatsoever. The best response you can come up with is name calling, questioning my sex, implying if I was female that wouldsomehow be a bad thing, saying I have a short attention span, etc., etc. This is how elementary children respond when someone disagrees with them and not howadults have an intelligent debate.<br><br>My opinion on the subject of this thread won't sway, and really won't change because I am called names. So go ahead, call me names, underestimate me byassuming I am not intelligent, insult my country; my opinion won't change and you end up looking juvenile.

"psychological damage"<br><br>Andy, you mean like what I feel, every time I read your ramblings? That's damaging. Pay attention already, YouTube has far worse, than anyone, includingkids can watch any day of the week. I don't know about where you live, but ere in da states, we has dis ere Intranet, and it's open the gateway toseeing what's really going on out there. My PPV event isnt free, so if you don't want to pay for it, then DON'T buy it and whine aboutpsychological damage. What kind of damage did your killer(s) do? I don't think they gave 2 seconds of thought into any "damage" they presented.Watching someone get the needle is nothing, I repeat nothing more, than watching olde people nap. "Tito, get me tissue, I just watched another convictedchild killer put to sleep-I'm so torn up about it. Tito, up next is the guy high on Meth who beheaded the screenwriter and then sliced up the Doctor wholived next door (from this week in LA), he's getting the needled-can you pop some popcorn?"<br>Sarcasm, yes, but the point is still there. You take you give-done.

Jamie! <img height="20" src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/hmmm.gif" width="20" alt="image">Do you have some problem dude with insecurity orsomething? Why would you construe what I say about the DP as a personall attack on your country. And if you think some of the talk here about the PPV thing andall those understandable gut responses are intelligent, you're wrong. They're visceral, or is that a word you don't understand and am unable tolook up for some reason or other. Quit whining like a pansy! Boy, you'd not survive one game of Hockey let alone the dressing room! Man! Hey Jamie,there's just as many a-holes and undesireables in 'My Country' as your's. I see no borders. I'll criticize my country equally or more thanyour's, and regularly do, and believe me, I've taken a lotta heat for it. In reality, I criticize human behaviour wherever it be found, here, there, orhalf way around the world. Chill Dude! A<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">BlueWagoon wrote:</strong> <hr> Jamie! <img height="20" alt="image" src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/hmmm.gif" width="20">Do you have some problem dude with insecurity or something? Why would you construe what I say about the DP as a personall attack on your country. And if you think some of the talk here about the PPV thing and all those understandable gut responses are intelligent, you're wrong. They're visceral, or is that a word you don't understand and am unable to look up for some reason or other. Quit whining like a pansy! Boy, you'd not survive one game of Hockey let alone the dressing room! Man! Hey Jamie, there's just as many a-holes and undesireables in 'My Country' as your's. I see no borders. I'll criticize my country equally or more than your's, and regularly do, and believe me, I've taken a lotta heat for it. In reality, I criticize human behaviour wherever it be found, here, there, or half way around the world. Chill Dude! A<img height="15" alt="image" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15"><br></blockquote><p> Thank you for making my point for me. Your entire response is: I'm insecure, stupid, weak, don't understand your big words, a pansy, etc. More offtopic, personal attacks.</p>

"And if you think some of the talk here about the PPV thing and all those understandable gut responses are intelligent, you're wrong."<br><br>Now that hurts. A boy can't dream now? WTF are you, to take that dream, that vision for the future away from me and others? I had three people signed upfor my PPV, just based upon this thread, I've not even advertised it yet. You keep sorting wood at the loggin camp, and leave us TV Execs alone. You haveno idea what makes for good TV. I've got a horse industry to bring back, executioners to get on the books, hotdog vendors to line up. This isn't goingto happen overnight Mr. Bunyon.<br><br>I don't think a guy who uses the word barbaric at least 1000 times in 48 hours, should ever use Hockey as a reference word. Ever....

Jamie! <img height="20" src="http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/images/smilies/gr_banghead.gif" width="25" alt="image">I'm not the one who started in on anyone person here. There was nothing from me that singled out any one persons comments where I then fired off a sarcastic or snyde remark at that person. Youhit<img height="32" src="http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/images/smilies/buttkick.gif" width="61" alt="image">me first! I commented on the human<img height="18" src="http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0703/NewfieRose/EMOTICONS/4316ad19.gif" width="18" alt="image">condition<img height="57" src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/deadhorse.gif" width="99" alt="image">. Hey! Let's have a wee drink! Tranya<img height="20" src="http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0703/NewfieRose/EMOTICONS/8276dd36.gif" width="45" alt="image">anyone? Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

Chris! Unfortunately I know what sells. Just about everytime I turn on that idiot box and scan through the channels in the evening, there is the mostsickening array of violence and sexual filth. I was watching TV with my Mom the other night (she's basically a Nun), and at 9:00 some show came on wherethere were a couple of girls and a guy together discussing about how they were gonna lure someone into a threesome. ............A couple of years ago, therewas some episode of CSI or something where a snuff film was being produced, and the image of the woman being killed as she was being raped was a little toographic not only for network TV which can be picked up with so much as bunny ears, let alone even for cable or satellite. Now this sort of f%$#ing garbagepermeates the airwaves and the minds of our population, and particularly the most impressionable minds of all. YOUR children. THIS is a major major problem.This is what desensitizes people by the time they're 10. The worst thing that was on TV in 1968 when I was playing with my HWs was The FBI, or Bugs Bunny.Not this sexual and violent filth. So when a society fills the minds of its young with this sh!t, it's setting itself up for large problems. It's likenot raising and training your dog properly, then find yourself beating up on the dog because you failed. Surely this isn't the way to maintain a society.Where do I not talk intelligently. I did when this all started. Like Tom said, maybe I shouldn't have allowed myself to have gotten sucked in. But ya know,it just serves to sharpen the ol' debate skills. C'mon now, who wants to sit around and watch or partake in a debate between Betty and Doris aboutwhich flower arrangement would best suit the old folks home? <img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

Hey, you brought up Hockey, not me!<br><br>I can raise my kids, without the aid of TV-thankyouverymuch. I'm incharge of what they can watch, how much their allowed to watch, how many minutes a daythey're allowed to "game." My computers are setup-set to keep them out of everything, I DON'T WANT. This has nothing to do with what we weretalking about anyway. Stay on GDtopic, stop talking about your Mum the nun, because I don't care. Has nothing to do with crime, and everything to do withyou and your mom being BAD parents/kids. My kids ain't sitting around watching filth with their mum, that's just gross, perv......

Let me explain my use of the word 'you'! It doesn't mean ...you, or anyone in particular. Please substitute the word 'one' for'you', or 'society'. I thought that would have been understood. And Chris, I don't watch that trash, nor with my Mom. We were channelsurfing and when that channel was hit next that's what was before our eyes. That wasn't intentional, it was by chance and I quickly went on to the nextchannel. And one more thing, I'm glad to hear you look out for your kids and regulate what they're exposed to. The point I was trying to make was, thisstuff is on TV and someone, a whole lotta somebodys, is obviously watching it. The kids of irresponsible parents. I didn't imply that you, or any one elsehere is a bad parent! Hockey! Anytime! I love diggin' it up in the corners.<img height="20" src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_sharpteeth.gif" width="20" alt="image"><p><br></p>

Wow, great topic and I just found it <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eek.gif" alt="image">. even i see most of you just wantto eliminate this guy, but I think he should get life in jail!, let him spend his time to think about what a horrible crime he did, then let him have a chanceto repent before he dies (guilt will kill him for sure). any way, if you want to kill all murderers , then G Bush will be first in line with Usama bin ladenfor killing so many Innocent Iraqis, and young US solders <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/mad.gif" alt="image"><img height="52" src="http://death6.homestead.com/files/evil8.gif" width="30" alt="image"> Dam him, he has so much blood on his hands, I wonder how he sleeps at night <img height="20" src="http://mmb.maverick.to/images/smilies/hmmm.gif" width="20" alt="image">.<br><p><br>Raed<br></p>

Cold! He's stone cold Raed! I say hand Bush, Cheney, and Rumpelstiltskin over to a UN tribunal to face Justice! <img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

Raed,<br>What is the penalty for killing in your country? Penalty for rape, molesting, and finally stealing please? What is crime like overall? Safe, bad parts of town,rampant, whatcha got? TIA.<br>Regards,<br>Chris

Raed, MY MAN, you GO!!! YES!!!

Great, now the leader of any country that has ever gone to war is a murderer and should face justice, yet a real murderer that kills a woman who is pregnantwith his child somehow deserves something better than death.

I never personally recognized that<img height="18" src="http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0703/NewfieRose/EMOTICONS/4316ad19.gif" width="18" alt="image">toolW as a leader of any country, let alone President of the US or leader of the free world! Really, did any of you? No really!<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

<blockquote> Now that hurts. A boy can't dream now? WTF are you, to take that dream, that vision for the future away from me and others? I had three people signed up for my PPV, just based upon this thread, I've not even advertised it yet. You keep sorting wood at the loggin camp, and leave us TV Execs alone. You have no idea what makes for good TV. I've got a horse industry to bring back, executioners to get on the books, hotdog vendors to line up. This isn't going to happen overnight Mr. Bunyon.</blockquote><br>LOL. Its okay Chris im still waiting in line to subscribe to the PPV live execution. Your dream/vision still has at least one subscriber. Can i fill out anapplication for a job as a executioner? What are the requirements? I already have an assassin name picked out. "The Pink Nightmare" or "TheDeranged Easter Bunny" really have a nice ring to them. I can provide a resume if needed!<br>

Chris, i'm down with your PPV dude, sign me up!!!! and i think the answers to the questions about punishment in Raed's country are death, death, deathand off with the hand!!!!

W is a tool Andy, ! What has any Hoser led government leader ever done to further mankind? Always waiting to see what will suit them , instead of reallystanding up for a real cause. Further evaluate your do nothing government before you insult the GREATEST country on the planet or our leaders....dave

Who and <img height="46" src="http://forums.gottadeal.com/images/smilies/new/gdbacktopic.gif" width="64" alt="image"> Where the hell are you going with thisthread. I was joking about the over posting thing but now?...dave<p><br></p>

Actually Dave, our troops are fighting Taliban in Afghanistan, alongside several other countries including the US. We've not had near the number ofcasualties as the US, but the 70 some odd we've lost isn't a small price either. As a matter of fact, the only elected official in Afghanistan isKharzai, and all the others are sham bogus thouroughly corrupt to the bone some of which are connected to the Taliban. This government is supported with overone billion no strings attached, unaccountable US$$$dollars$$$ part of which have been used to kill Canadian troops. Our government, and especially the currentright wing clinging by a hair underhanded dictaTORYal secretive which I so love to bash, I will say one thing for, I'm fully behind them and theirAfghanistan policy. We are fighting the good fight there. We didn't support an illegal action by the US when you went into Iraq and got called all sorts ofvile insults by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchannan, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly,......etc. WTF is with those people. Is this theface of America? These people spout off all this feculent spew without end. Who's that a$$ Pat Robertson? I've explained, among others too, what theproblem is! I'd like Sverrefan to please enlighten me once more. Please tell me why you don't think a more equal distribution of wealth is good! Andlet me say one more thing, let's all, me too, not get bent<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/mad.gif" alt="image">outta shapehere boys! Hey! 4 or 5 of you, one of me, odds in my favour BatMan!!! Enlighten me Sverredude! Andy

<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image">Don't worry about the overpostingDave, we're working towards some sort of ends here. If anyone, Rob should be the one to say something, or maybe Chris or TCS would put thebootheel<img height="32" src="http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/images/smilies/buttkick.gif" width="61" alt="image">to it! Let's not let animosities takeover here. Hot Hot!! HOT! We're waitin' on Raed with the goods in U.A.E......that's there though. That's not here. Different world!Andy<img height="35" src="http://sshare1.familylobby.com/icons/icon_popcorn.gif" width="35" alt="image"><p><br></p>

Oh Ya! Dave! I was gonna explain the word 'tool' in the context it was meant. In this instance, the use of the word tool indicates that the subject isthat of a monkey in the middle kinda thing. Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><br>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">BlueWagoon wrote:</strong> <hr> I never personally recognized that<img height="18" alt="image" src="http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0703/NewfieRose/EMOTICONS/4316ad19.gif" width="18">tool W as a leader of any country, let alone President of the US or leader of the free world! Really, did any of you? No really!<img height="15" alt="image" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15"><br></blockquote><p> Really? Well, in this country he was voted in, by a majority, as President twice, so you can dislike him and his policies, but to say you don'trecognize him as the President of the US and leader of this country is some sort of weird denial because he is, in fact, President of the US, like it ornot.</p>

In Canada we have 3 main political partys. Left/New Democratic Party, Center/The Liberal Party of Canada, and on the right, The Conservative Party of Canada(formerly the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada.....................progressive conservative, huh? That's a trueidiosyncracy,...............yin-yang if you will. The Yin-Yang Party of Canada. And just loaded with Christians, rowdy right minded ones. After all, I heardthe highest official of The Anglican Church of Canada explain to us on TV that the primary function of the Church is the "Study of Yin-Yang", whichwould be fitting for such a mixed up bunch). Anyhow, I liken the 3 Partys here to The 3 Stooges. Curly/Left winger, Larry/moderate centrist and most sensibleof the 3, and finally, yes, Moe could be none other that the right wing. Yes, Moe is dominated by the right brain thing, always bullyin' people around, oris that the left brain, because one side of your brain controls the other side of your body. I guess righties are actually leftys trying to overcompensate. Nowif they are Leftys, that would make them a bunch of little girls, and in actual fact Liberals are the real rightys, and is in fact, the Man. Light/Library,Liberal, Liberty, and so on. I figure if your an 'uptight Christian righty', you don't have Liberty, you've a yoke around your neck, a yoke ofa religeon, after all, aren't you being sheppherded therein. And those right wing media types I mentioned earlier, most of whom claim to be Christians,have a yoke of hatred and anger around their necks. I ain't bashin' Christians. I know some very good ones. Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><br>

Raed, I understand that your not living in the US currently, you don't see in the news every day of all the murders, rapes, and child molestations like wedo. It is said that as of right now, approximately 1% of Americans are in prison. That's one out of 100 and in some neighbourhoods, it's a lot morethan one out of every 100. Our prisons are seriously overcrowded and they can not be built fast enough to keep up with demand. Like Chris pointed out, it'san easy living for some people. They get far more comforts in prison than some get on the street. The man in question - the original topic of this thread - wasconvicted of murdering his girlfriend (he's also married) who was carrying HIS child.<br><br>I do agree with you in regards to our president. I have said other times that he should be charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity.<br><br><blockquote> the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchannan, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly,......etc. WTF is with those people. Is this the face of America?</blockquote><br><br>None of them are the face of America. They are the faces of the radical reich. They are examples of the reason so many people are pushing further left now -it's an attempt to balance things better. Also consider that they are all paid pundits. They are paid by people of similar or same beliefs who can pull thestrings to their rich little hearts' content. Not one of them represent the average American any more than Mann Coulter represents women.<br><br>Damn. They fixed something on Google and in the process half the searches now point to porn sites, and that's searching for totally innocuous things. Abouta month ago, you could do a search on the "C-word" and Ann Coulter's name would pop up at least twice on the first page alone, even above theslang dictionary entries.

<blockquote> any way, if you want to kill all murderers , then G Bush will be first in line with Usama bin laden for killing so many Innocent Iraqis, and young US solders</blockquote>Raed, if that's the case, then Bill Clinton needs to be on that list too.<br><br>Andy, no, Rush, Bill and the like are not the face of America. They're just a loud and obnoxious faction. The idiots always always bellow the loudest andpush their way to the forefront.<br>As for the more equal distribution of wealth, I never said it was a bad idea, I said it didn't work in practice. Tell me, how do you accomplish this moreequal distribution?<br>

<a href="http://www.jhm.org/ME2/Sites/dirmod.asp?sid=&amp;nm=&amp;type=Publishing&amp;mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&amp;mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&amp;tier=2&amp;did=F9D5DFC21B0A44F588415CE013B2A215&amp;dtxt=Jan+%2D+Feb+2008&amp;SiteID=21B0B031B0D748C79CC5376D4F7EF24C"><img src="http://www.jhm.org/Media/PublicationsIssue/JHMagazine08_01.jpg" border="0" alt="image"></a> Hey! I see that freak I haven't seen for awhile, JohnHagee (John is it?) has just stained McCains run for the GOP nomination. Please, somebody put an adult diaper on that Hagees head and face so we don't haveto listen to much of what he has to say. Please. Distribution of wealth ideas comin' right up. I've several things on the go this evenin' !Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.tothecenter.com/news.php?readmore=4366">http://www.tothecenter.com/news.php?readmore=4366</a><br>

To add something to what Kitty said about our prisons---I read or heard recently that 5 of our 50 states spend more money on prisons and such than they send onschools and education. Seems like that number will be going up---ToM/NOLa

Bear this in mind, I don't know, but what %age of prisons in the US are or have been privatized. I always had the impression that in the US that maybeincarcerating people is more of an industry than anything. Industries are dependant on growth, and it's definately a growth industry. Small and medium drugoffences and property crimes can be far more effectively dealt with in other ways, starting up front, and not after the damage is done. Think of this,ironically enough, Rob's job is dependant on crime! Take away the crime, and you take away employment, and legal costs, and insurance payouts, etc... andput a dent in the Gross National Product. One reason I think that the RCMP and other agencies want to keep marijuana and other drugs illegal is to keep ahealthy level of crime up so they can cry wolf and demand more and more money for all those exciting expensive crime fighting toys such as helicopters, DodgeStealth Interceptors with Hemis in them, (I was crackin' a joke to a local cop the other day who was driving an all white Hemi Dodge of some sort, and Ilaughed and said, "Just who in the heck are you gonna need that for to chase around here? LOLOL!!! No offence Rob! I know you're fightin' the GoodFight dude! Power to you, keep it up!!!! And just why is marijuana so expensive. You can grow a whole dump truck full for $50.00 tops! In the space of say 3ftby 3ft you can grow a few small baskets of Tomatos. How much are they, a few $$$ each? In the same amount of space in the same amount of time, you can growroughly the same amount of pot. The tomatos sell for $10 to $20, the pot $4000.00. There is something drastically wrong here!!! The Tomatos are drasticallyundervalued. One Tomato should cost roughly $200.00, or maybe it's because a mere herb is astronomically overvalued. Yes, the pot is in reality only worth$10 or $20. Yes! See where the ridiculous war on drugs and particularly, on marijuana has gotten us? The ridiculous amounts of money spent both fighting it,and by purchasers, is what drives crime from both ends. See what the amounts of money involved drives! Now, I do realize that a lotta drugs, along withalcohol, and other things, isn't good for a healthy society. Seriously, how does a rationally sane person condone the use particularly of substances suchas this crystal meth, or heroine , or cocaine. In this world today, you cannot have a nation wired on stuff like meth and crack and heroine. It will rotsociety from the inside out and outside in. In today's world you gotta have a clear head and be ready. It's a quagmire! ........Waitin' on Raedhere! Take the money outta the drugs for one, and you'll put a major dent in crime. Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">dftcat wrote:</strong> <hr> W is a tool Andy, ! What has any Hoser led government leader ever done to further mankind? Always waiting to see what will suit them , instead of really standing up for a real cause. Further evaluate your do nothing government before you insult the GREATEST country on the planet or our leaders....dave</blockquote><p> Dave! I also wanted to add that I will insult the President of the so called GREATEST nation on Earth. I have NO respect whatsoever for an a$$ like thatBush. He insulted me first when he looked into the camera lens talking to Canadians after we refused to send troops to Iraq and gave us theultimatum......"You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists". When you guys got nailed on 9/11, our country was shocked, and at therequest of the US government, we so happily and gladly opened our airspace and airports to dozens or 100s of unscheduled aircraft from your country and othersfor a safe place to land. Any of those planes could have hit us too! Like I said before about Bush's amibiguous threats, my first reaction was to utter thewords "Go F$%K yourself meatball!" How dare that guy say that to us, how dare he. POS! Andy</p>

Wow, i am gone for less than a day and look what happens now <img height="21" src="http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/images/smilies/zx11shocked.gif" width="22" alt="image"><p>. first to answer our friend Chris questions, it is as Rob said death, death,... ! even i live in a Muslim country i am not one, I am a christian to thebone <img height="20" src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_heartbeating.gif" width="20" alt="image"> . also we have international laws over here, youcan't just cut someone head that easy (unless you live the Saudi evil land <img height="52" src="http://death6.homestead.com/files/evil8.gif" width="30" alt="image">). we are very moderate over here, but family revenge is stronger for rape issues more than killing someone!!!<img height="16" src="http://www.hotwheelscollectors.com/IMAGES/VER2_0/site/GRAEMLINS/bawling.gif" width="21" alt="image">, we go by big families and Tripes (but still very modern<img height="20" src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_thumbsup.gif" width="20" alt="image"> ). honer is a huge thing over here.<br><br>Dear Ketty, I totally understand what you said, but i lived in the USA (get this, in L.A. <img height="20" src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_sharpteeth.gif" width="20" alt="image">) where crime was every day event ! , and i do watch ABC abd NBC news liveevery morning before I go to work 9 actually it is your evening news <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/laugh.gif" alt="image">).<br><br><br>now for Dave, please do not defend bush (as he is never/was a great leader) for nothing, search and research the facts and then make you decision. I have torun to the airport in few hours <img height="28" src="http://forums.gottadeal.com/images/smilies/new/gdcar2.gif" width="31" alt="image"> so when i get back infew days I will post a new topic about the Holocaust <img height="20" src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_devil.gif" width="20" alt="image"><br><br>stay tuned....<br><br>Raed<br></p>

Well for arguments sake lets just say everyone here is right. Conclusions....<br><br>- People that murder, rape, and molest children should die an agonizing death.<br>- George Bush is a liar and a crook<br>- Canada has given the world a great deal of important things. Like "Kids in the Hall", french fries and gravy, and most importantly they build crownvics there (where would police be without them?)<br>- We need to kill osama bin laden<br>- Bush, Cheny, and all dicks like him do not embody what true Americans believe in.<br>- Barbarians are not always unreasonable. They just like a good stoning and public execution of scum every now and then. Who can fault them?<br>-Chris is gonna be swimmin in dough when he gets his PPV live execution event up and running. Woo Wooo! Whats that sound? Thats your gravy train Chris and itsfull steam ahead!<br>-Inmates need to be issued pink unitards<br>-Running Man was a great idea but a lousy film. I had my money on Fireball.<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/frown.gif" alt="image"><br><br><br>

<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"> I wish I was as eloquent with thelanguage as you Justin! Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p>Oh Yeah! You forgot Tim Horton's Donuts to go with them squad cars!<br></p>

Didn't call Bush a great leader. I'm defending America. Go ahead and bash Andy, many would say the same of you. I'm not a paragraph,writer soi'll end the nasty crap there..Correct me if i'm wrong, but don't we give more in aide &amp; cash to everyone &amp; everywhere in the world.Everyone loves to bash the front runner,big man on campus. America is helping, NOT hurting...dave

<p>Lemme get this straight...it' Bush that is killing innocent Iraqis and young soldiers? Last time I checked it was a bunch of brainwashed nutballs thatliked blowing themselves up in the name of "peace" doing that.<br><br>Let me 'splain somethin' to you, Lucy... Let's pretend my house is a country and the local police are the American armed forces. If I don'twant the police coming in my house and hunting me and my family down room to room, I don't go into neighbors' houses and attack them and I don'tblow up the family dog in my yard to "make a point about peace." And if I did, then I certainly wouldn't expect anyone else in town to blame thepolice for invading my house.<br><br>But on the world level, that's what the US is up against. Nutball terrorists on the one hand and mamsy-pamsy "don't hurt anyone" pacifists onthe other.<br><br>Stop me if you've heard this joke: I don't care if the meek inherit the earth. What are they going to do to stop me from taking it from them?They're a bunch of meeks.<br><br>You know why pacifists don't rule the world? Because they don't do crap when other people threaten them. They roll over and expose their softunderbellies. Look at France. France used to be a dominant world power. Back in the day, they started to help the fledgling colonies and England decided itwasn't worth it. Then France went soft. Rolled over for Germany not once...TWICE. Roll over in the UN every day. And who is it that bails their butts outtime and again? The US.<br><br>If the Iraqi terrorists really wanted to get the US out of the middle east, you know what they'd do?<br><br>Nothing.<br><br>They'd stop blowing everything up and beheading people. They'd go to work. They'd play soccer (yeah, that's right. SOCCER) to pass the time.<br><br>But no. They go make dicks of themselves to keep the US military presence there.<br><br>Why?<br><br>Because it helps them recruit new nutball members to their "cause." It's a never-ending war and they are doing everything to perpetuate it.<br><br>Clinton played soft and they kept bombing and bombing and bombing all around the world.<br><br>Bush stepped up to the plate and they're hiding in caves and putting IEDs in the ditches.<br><br>Yeah, people die because of it. But if we weren't there to contain their BS, they'd be flying around the world blowing things up willie-nillie.<br><br>Don't try to foist this off on "warmongers" Bush and Cheney or the USA. Maybe "we" shouldn't be there, but I don't see anyoneelse stepping up and saying "somebody has to stop this 7th Century crap."<br><br>If anyone seriously wants the US to get out of Iraq, they should go talk to the terrorists and tell them to behave.<br><br>I'm sure they'll be more than happy to broadcast *that* execution on Al Jihad-vision.<br><br>Joel.</p>

man, where will this thread go next?! my dad is better than your dad because.........

Dave! Really, I'm not trying to be nasty. Really. It's more the cynical voice of dis-enchantment with the path the US has gone, and not just as ofrecent years. I know there's a lot of good the US does and has done in the world, and is full of good people. Maybe my ideals are that of the later'60s or '70s or previous. Let me put it this way without sounding foolish. I used to see you guys as being a lot like the Federation in the originalStar Trek series (Gene Roddenberry was a Navy Guy), but instead of a space ship far out in space, the US was the space ship, and the Earth was space. Try toget everyone into one big federation so we can trade in goods and culture, and get along, and not interfere in each others affairs with the exception of comingto the rescue in the face of overwhelming danger, and to have sufficient might to defend the ideal. It's not unlike Star Wars, or, The Bible oddly enough,the Judeo-Christian way of doing things, whether you're a believer or not. Anyway, I don't know lot's about American history, maybe more than most,but slavery aside and a few other issues, The American ideal is not unlike that of Star Trek, and your very Constitution ranks with some of the greatestcharters, if not the greatest, since The Magna Carta. I always had an admiration of the US. I have friends there who I see occassionally. The terrain is nice.Something though has gone seriously wrong, bad, and fast, and it's outta hand, and outta line. I'm like Gramps. A lotta people get bent outta shapewith him, but I like him, only expect, and want to see better from my own. I don't know what Gramps' take on the DP is. And when I say my own, thatincludes the US. There really is no border culturally, trust me on that from the perspective of being on this side, we're just not as intense. But the wayyou've gone in recent years under Bush is just attrocious. Isn't the US supposed to be just like in all them '50s and '60s war movies, or JohnWayne movies? I will maintain that the US is being poisoned with all the violence and filth on TV and in the movies, and culture in general, is goin' downthe toilet. One more thing pertinent to Rob's original question before I shut up, in Star Trek, the Federation never executed criminals, and sought tochange such behaviour in societies they encountered. They were humane. They were evolved! OK, I shut up now! Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"><p><br></p>

Grind him up and feed him to his own kind, pig slop