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Because your so called views are in the stone age Mike, you live in a dream world. Where do you work? I would love to see you puke these type of hatefulviewpoints on your fellow workers, you are a Human Resources petri dish.<br><br>Later, Dave

<blockquote> I would love it if you could point me in the direction of or share some of the documents you referred to</blockquote>Jamie: If you do a web search for "Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War,Geneva, 1948" you'll find some interesting excerpts and will lead you to more info too. Watch out though. There are some very anti-semitic websitesout there, some of which are funded by Zionists themselves and are full of disinfo.<br><br>Gramps<br>

People have a right to disagree and nobody agrees on everything. Its life. Were not all zombies. Yet! So folks can quit the "Whannn you are intolerant ofme not liking gays." song and dance. Its called expressing your opinion. If you only want to hear people gay bashing then youve come to the wrong place. Iguess some people would prefer that those with differing opinions just shut up for the sake of everyone being in agreement. After all nothings better than theillusion of everything being peachy. Just look at the wonders living in a lie has done for this country.<br><br>And people do have their heads stuck somewhere alright. But its not in the sand.<br>

Thanks Gramps, I will look into it, I am always eager to learn the truth.

anita gets my vote for post of the year!

Hi, as a Strong believer in god and my lord Jesus I do not accept gay life style or even marriage, <img height="20" src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_heartbeating.gif" width="20" alt="image"> BUT I do love them as fellow humans. all through history same sex lovewas spoken of, but science proved that you are not born gay, you might have some other physical and biolegical issues (she males) or hormonal issues, butnormal human are born by defauld attracted to the other sex.<br><br>I do not want to see gay people have legal power as a group, they can continue live their life style (human freedom), but guy marrage will destroy sociaty!.how can you explain to your 5 year old thad his friend at school has 2 dads or moms?. I do not want a gay teacher teaching my children. there is so muchmistakes are being done in the "freedom" issue in the west ans specialy in the US, the next genarations will pay the price for sure.<br><br>if you are gay, there is a cure , it is a desese , mental and physical.<br><br>even if you are not a believer in god, but you know that marriage is the highest most sensual tie between a man and a woman in declaration of pure love. Adamand Steve can elope somewhere else.<br><br>I am sorry if you are gay or supporter of gay marriages, but hey, I have my right to protect my way of life too, remember that "freedom " is foreveryone .<br><br><br><br>cheers<br>raed<br><br>ps, Anita, I do not think making fun of my Jesus has to do anything with our topic. will just leave it to the "believe" topic <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image">

<blockquote> Hi, as a Strong believer in god and my lord Jesus I do not accept gay life style or even marriage</blockquote><blockquote> science proved that you are not born gay, you might have some other physical and biolegical issues (she males) or hormonal issues <br><br></blockquote><blockquote> I do not want to see gay people have legal power as a group</blockquote> <br><blockquote> guy marrage will destroy sociaty!</blockquote><blockquote> I do not want a gay teacher teaching my children. there is so much mistakes are being done in the "freedom" issue in the west ans specialy in the US, the next genarations will pay the price for sure.</blockquote><br><blockquote> <strong>if you are gay, there is a cure , it is a desese , mental and physical.</strong></blockquote><blockquote> even if you are not a believer in god, ...marriage is the highest most sensual tie between a man and a woman in declaration of pure love. <br> Adam and Steve can elope somewhere else. <br></blockquote><blockquote> I am sorry if you are gay or supporter of gay marriages, but hey, I have my right to protect my way of life too, remember that "freedom " is for everyone .</blockquote><p><br><br>Wow, I would have never guessed you lived in<br>the Middle East from these values of yours, Raed.</p><p>(That's sarcasm, by the way). You do not hold "views" here Raed,<br>or a "way of life", unless you consider bigotry, ignorance and religious prejudice<br>a "way of life". This poison you've just vomited forth is the most complete crap I've read from anyone, ever, on this board. And that'ssaying something.<br><br>To this point, I've held the opinion that you were a good person,<br>just from a different culture. While I still think of you as a person who is<br>positive and benevolent by nature, that culture you come from has once again shown me,<br>this time through <strong><em>you</em></strong>, that it is beyond redemption and a liability on all humanity.<br>You may have just single handedly convinced me to vote Republican.<br><br>To say more is a waste of time, your words speak for themselves.<br>I don't care what you have to say in defense of those statements you made Raed,<br>because nothing can defend them.<br><br>I am not taking them out of context, I am not misinterpreting you,<br>I am not missing your meaning, I am not overlooking how you are a proufound hypocrite and expressed your supposed Christian love and tolerance while at thesame time condemning everyone who is gay, and for that matter, from the West.<br>I am not unaware that English is not your primary language,<br>and that can't explain this away.<br><br>Your words are hate and intolerance wrapped in your "love" for your fellow man through your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,<br>who - if he actually exists - just wept as you typed your hate for all to see.</p><p>I am blown away by what you typed Raed, almost in shock.<br>Nearly physically sick.<br>I throw you to the wolves, I can not respect you any longer.<br><br>-Greg</p><p><br><br><br></p>

Wow....<br>Sure is a lot of HATE on this thread! I am very surprised to see what some people are saying...<br>I wonder if something happended in someones childhood...or something that they tried once (Greg...what is the percentage of men that have TRIED something withanother man at least once in their childhood)....to have so much HATE rot inside...<br>

Raed............. I guess it just goes to show how widespread this type of hatred goes and how deep when you consider how many folks just here on this boardhave spewed out such intolerant viewpoints. Growing up in Texas as a kid i witnessed this kind of blind hatred towards African Americans and this many yearsdown the road we think we have made a lot of progress and I guess on some levels we have. But, it's still there, just as little jokes sneak through on hereabout a minority, now we are witness to a full blown, twisted view of a good segment of our society and yes Raed, it is OUR society, one that you have no clueas to the structure and what makes it up. With your views on this part of our culture I really wonder what you think of our elections? A woman and an AfricanAmerican running for the highest office in the land and the African American now has a shot, what is your viewpoint on him? What if he were elected and laterfound out to be gay? I'm really stunned Raed, I've lost a LOT of respect in you, but I've lost a lot in other members on this topic, but it is athread that we brought this all out and it just goes to show you how deep the venom goes..... Later, Dave

<p><font color="#0033FF">Wow talk about a runaway train. This thread is out of control and that is why I don't post in threads about politics, religion orany topic people get bent out of shape about. The original post by Scott was about his disappointment about the Supreme court overriding the voting majority.One sarcastic comment about marrying your sister or brother, mother, Dog? Cat? Goat? and some people take it the wrong way and go overboard.<br> Honestly if the mods close this thread some people will complain about being <img height="15" src="http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0703/NewfieRose/EMOTICONS/ef5530ce.gif" width="34" alt="image"> if they leave the thread open well you get more of this.Can't everyone just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Walk away from this thread with no hard feelings and go post about redlines or give your lovedone a hug...</font></p><p><font color="#0033FF">L8er<br>DON</font></p>

<font color="#0000FF" size="4">How sad. This thread started out with some people hating gays and now we're starting to hate each other. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/frown.gif" alt="image"> We've all had our say, I think it's time for this thread to be closed.<br><br><br>~Karen</font>

<blockquote> Wow.... <br> Sure is a lot of HATE on this thread! I am very surprised to see what some people are saying... <br> I wonder if something happended in someones childhood...or something that they tried once (Greg...what is the percentage of men that have TRIED something with another man at least once in their childhood)....to have so much HATE rot inside... <br><br></blockquote>The lady (not you Anita) doth protest too much, methinks.<br><br>- Hamlet

<p>usafa83,<br>Who exactly are you referring to?<br>Is it me, since the quote you chose from Anita has my name in it?<br>Your implication is that whomever you're referring to is gay because they<br>protest too much.</p><p>-Greg</p>

I was kind of restating some of what Anita was aluding to. That some of the simmering hatred folks have for one thing or another is often a result of someinternal conflict, hence the famous Hamlet quote. Has nothing to do with you Greg. I enjoy reading your posts.

<p>Thanks very much for clearing that up.</p>

<strong>Wowwwwwwww, this thread needs to be closed right now, before it gets any worse........<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eyes.gif" alt="image"></strong>

Karen, there's been some good discussion in spite of all the hard feelings. Brushing aside differences all the time just isn't a healthy way to keep acommunity intact, or any relationship for that matter. It's one thing to voice an opinion but through votes such as California's, opinion progressed toaction. And in this case, unjustifiable action based on fear, religion, whatever. The Supreme Court put a halt to it, and rightfully so.<br><br>There have been so many fear-related weak arguments against homosexuality stated here that I froze up and have been too overwhelmed to respond. I'd like tothank Greg and Greg and Dave and Kitty and others for being able to respond.<br><br>This concept of gay marriage bringing down society feels so blatantly untrue that I'm amazed anyone actually believes it, and again, I just don't knowhow to respond. I've watched my kids grow up with Asians and blacks and see how well they get along compared to my generation at that age. I watch my kidsgrow up amongst gay parents and their kids and again, see how well they get along. How can such diversity, and such accepted diversity, be bringing downsociety? Kids are far more accepting of others than many here seem to give them credit for. And it's a lasting acceptance. Two gay guys living next door?Just tell your kids that they love each other and leave it at that. And leave the derision out of your voice.<br><br>Lots more I could say but I'll stop for now...<br><br>Jeff

Settle down. It's still an interesting topic, and if you don't help to educate some viewpoints, and now want to throw in the towel, your giving up.Keep it cool, respectful, even if you don't agree. How else do you effect change?<br><br>Why in the world, would anyone hate on Raed? If a person grew up being told that Ice Cream KILLS you, then that person might actually believe that Ice CreamKILLS you. Just maybe you start using some of your own tolerence, as you preach it to others. If you will not give any, how can you expect any back in return?

<strong><br>Greg (99Octane), I lost your old e-addy so please email me</strong> <a href="mailto:ziurosep07@hotmail.com">ziurosep07@hotmail.com</a><br><strong>I would like to have some unbiased discussions with you.</strong> <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/happy.gif" alt="image"><br><br>