What would your decision be....

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<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">BlueWagoon wrote:</strong> <hr> The bottom line here, is to protect society from such people. Who said they wanted to rehabilitate the guy and let him go next year? It's obvious he's guilty. What should we do with any of you gun toting types if and when you crack? Any of you are just as susceptible to loosing your mind. Should you loose your mind and kill your pregnant wife, I'm sure your family will be eager to kill you themselves on front of everybody at market square. I for one would put you in jail for life in case I might be wrong, and I believe the percentage of wrongfull executions is about 12%-15%. Andy<img height="15" alt="image" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15"></blockquote><p> </p>So now "us gun toting types" are going to kill our wives when we "crack"? WTF is wrong with you man, you are the most sterotypingperson in this thread...to you there's either "left wing Renaissance or right wing crazed madmen who kill their loved ones, way to be open minded tothe real world!<br><br>I just hope that nobody ever breaks into your house and tries to harm your family, as fighting them away from your wife and kids with your spatula wont do muchgood, so they will probably get the best of your family. Then you can go visit the guy in jail and bring tea and cookies and share your compassion with theman who just killed them.

This is no longer a thread about what a civil society should do with a convicted killer. It's just about killing. Later! Andy<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/sick.gif" alt="image">

Andy your the one who changed the subject countless times, but when you bluff is called you bail? We're all just blood thirsty killers now , right?<br> I can still get ya that number if will help...dave

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">BlueWagoon wrote:</strong> <hr> This is no longer a thread about what a civil society should do with a convicted killer. It's just about killing. Later! Andy<img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/sick.gif"></blockquote><p> </p>It was never about that, it was about whether you, as a juror, would vote for life in prison or the death penalty. Left Winger manual page 225, if youcan't get everyone to agree with you, and bashing does not work, take your ball and go home!<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/laugh.gif" alt="image">

<p>No andy it's about what civil people should do to a society with killers among them, gang bang, drug dealers, rapist, people that take from those thatwork for what they have...is there something wrong with taking out the son of a bitch that killed the love of your life one and only person that you dream ofgrowing old with just because they need money for haroin or speed........<br><br>Lucky will be the the peace of crap that breaks into my house had has a quick round to the head!! </p>

I'll bet if his pregnant girlfriend was a "gun-toting type," the outcome might have been different when the nut cracked.<br><br>Anyway, didn't we have a discussion about the national debt and how raising my taxes to pay it off would make me prosperous. Well, as I was driving acrossthe lovely United Socialist State of California today, I got to thinking about this thread and that one.<br><br>It's so obvious. Let's kill every POS who is on death row or serving a life sentence without parole (all appeals exhausted). I'm not beingsarcastic. Let's take that money saved from pampering them for the rest of their lives and apply *that* money to the national debt. This way, some good cancome from their evil. Most importantly, my taxes don't get raised to make me more prosperous.<br><br>Something for the lefties, the righties, the Christians, and the heathens.<br><br>I know it comes off as facetious, but I'm serious. BUT: if you catch the flaw in the financial logic there, good for you.<br><br>Joel.

Yeah where was my sense of being humane. Forget about the public hangings once murderers, rapists, and child molesters are convicted by a jury of their peers.Yeah lets just give em a "life sentence" in a government facility paid for by you and me where more than likely they will be parolled in 10-15 yearsfor BS "good behavior". I dont think this is enough though. Lets spend even more time and money catering to these maggots. Heres some more treehugging feel good ideas for being humane to murderes, rapists, and child molestors and making sure their feelings arent hurt and they can be all they can bewhile on their all expense paid prison sentence:<br><br>1.) Give them first class accommodations. They need rooms with cable, leather furniture, and a private restroom. Also give them a private hot tub in each room.Hell throw in a wet bar also. They need to be able to relax. Poor things!<br>2.) Give them 5 star meals for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.<br>3.) Teach them martial arts so they can better maim society once they are released. Nothing better than teaching a convicted murderer how to quicklyincapacitate his or her future victims!<br>4.) Pay them $20,000 sign on bonuses for being such upstanding citizens and signing on by committing crimes against humanity. They need to know the prisonsystem appreciates their service.<br>5.) In addition to the sign on bonus they receive upon their conviction lets pay them all $50,000 a year for their pain and suffering. After all its not theirfault they killed, raped, or murdered a person!<br>6.) Upon their release issue them firearms for "self defense" from irate law abiding citizens. After all they have been "rehabilitated" soits not like they'll hurt anyone on purpose.<br>7.) Upon their release also give them body guards for protection. "Barbaric" law abiding citizens like us are bound to be armed as well, so who knowswhat kind of irrational behavior we will be up to. Ex cons need the extra security from us "barbarians"!<br>8.) Take away the right to bear arms from law abiding citizens so they wont be a threat to criminals. Also since were issuing firearms to ex-cons they willhave the upper hand against Joe Public should things escalate.<br>9.) Lets also disarm the police too! Who knows what these crazy trigger happy cops might do when they see these "rehabilitated" ex cons raping andmurdering again.<br><br>Yep i think if we all stand side by side and hold hands in front of the white house playing feel good music we can bring about these changes so these poorlittle criminals can have some equality for a change. It will be like hands across America only we wont be doing it for a good cause. Yay! Now wheres mytambourine!<br><br><br>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">jamwood1 wrote:</strong> <hr><blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">BlueWagoon wrote:</strong> <hr> This is no longer a thread about what a civil society should do with a convicted killer. It's just about killing. Later! Andy<img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/sick.gif"></blockquote>It was never about that, it was about whether you, as a juror, would vote for life in prison or the death penalty. Left Winger manual page 225, if you can't get everyone to agree with you, and bashing does not work, take your ball and go home!<img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/laugh.gif"></blockquote><p> <img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image">Take my ball an go home! Rightback at ya dude! I would suspect that because Rob didn't make this thread a 'poll' in particular, that maybe he left it open for comment. Idon't bash people because they disagree with me. That's a shallow minded right wing tactic. And I never changed the subject. The subject is what Iwould do as a juror. The key word is 'Juror'. My comments imply that I'd spare the guys life (like I would your's should I find myself at yourCapital Punishment trial). Jurors exist in a civil society that hold the Rule of Law as one of its highest tenets. You should feel very lucky to live in asociety that would afford you that, and NOT haul you outback and put a bullet in your head minutes after a lopsided unfair sham trial like they do in a lot ofEastern countries and not unlike those of your own Salem witch trials. Hey, just do what King Harrod did, kill 'em all, even the innocents, so you makesure you get the right one! So yeah, in a thread about the Death Penalty, I see nothing wrong with expanding the topic into the bigger picture. It's alldirectly related to politics and religeon. What part don't you understand? You don't suffer from a short attention span do you? I don't know you,so I can't make that call! If you need some help, feel free to ask Jamie! Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"></p>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">dftcat wrote:</strong> <hr> Andy your the one who changed the subject countless times, but when you bluff is called you bail? We're all just blood thirsty killers now , right? <br> I can still get ya that number if will help...dave</blockquote><p> Dave, read the part in my previous post about changing subjects. No subjects were changed. Was that you who called some bluff? Who exactly called somebluff. I'm not bluffing, and have enough spine not to bail when the crowd gets tough. It was late last night, and I'm not about to stay up all nightresponding to viscerality. If you vigourously call for the Death Penalty, yeah, you too are now a killer just as a mob boss who doesn't actually do thedeed, but calls on his minions to kill someone. I can hear the thirst in the throats of the respondents here, just read the thread, you don't hear a thirstfor this guy's execution? Doesn't execution mean kill? Pffft!........I'll say this again just in case you never really read or comprehended what Isaid. It's more important in a society like ours to spare a few killers so as not to harm the innocent. Do you want to wind the clock back centuries. Seemsthat's what righties want to do. They want to go back. That's part of what what conservatism is all about. They wanna go back to their good ol'days. The only good ol' days there were, occurred in the later '60s through most of the '70s when civil compassionate harmonious society seemed topeak. Its drastically degraded since the drift of society went me me me, wealth wealth wealth, look at me and what I have. Andy<img height="15" src="http://redlinesonlinemessageboard.yuku.com/domain/bypass/images/pacman.gif" width="15" alt="image"></p>