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<blockquote> i don't think anyone on this board has said way to go obama</blockquote>You stand corrected "WAY TO GO OBAMA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br><br>There.... I said it and I know I'm not alone... the majority of the country said the exact same thing.... Life is good :)<br><br>Dig<br><br>
stop focusing on the past, its over, done with ,and can't be changed. you can blame w, and you can blame clinton, and you can blame hw, and all the wayback to the beginning which will change nothing. scott is right no one wants failure but the moves have not been good, its shows on wall street and wall streetis a huge part of our economy.the economy will, in time, correct itself, without help from the government. the people with the money will buy the forclosuers,they will in turn sell them or rent them for profit. when they make the money they will invest the money and so on and so forth it all works out in theend.that my friend is capitalism, what this country was built on. one thing for sure is a deadbeat will always be a deadbeat and i'm not paying hismortgage dammit. what can i do besides piss and moan???? post the facts and raise awareness! if your unsure about anything, do a little research its all outthere<br><br>CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN<br><ul><li>The Dow at a 10-year low.</li> <li>A tax cheat running the IRS</li> <li>Another tax cheat as the Chief of Staff</li> <li>A trillion-dollar plus federal deficit</li> <li>Over one-half of voters relieved of any federal tax liability</li> <li>Government mandated limits on executive compensation</li> <li>Three failed attempts and still no Commerce Secretary</li> <li>Tom Daschle rides his free limo into the sunset - after paying taxes he evaded.</li> <li>The White House performance czar turns out to be a tax cheat also</li> <li>Lobbyists hired to work for the Obama Administration</li> <li>The census gets politicized</li> <li>Double government spending in one year</li> <li>The word "freedom" fades into obscurity</li> <li>Millions of Americans made dependent on government</li> <li>Moving unionization-by-intimidation forward</li> <li>Welfare checks become "tax cuts."</li> <li>Illegal aliens free to work on taxpayer-funded "stimulus" projects</li> <li>Welfare reform reversed, states ordered to increase welfare roles</li> <li>Move to silence critical talk radio shows</li> <li>Selling Senate seats</li> <li>Obama books in religious sections of book stores</li> <li>More government workers, not private sector jobs</li> <li>A government bureaucracy to intrude on doctor/patient relationships</li> <li>Stage set for medical services rationing</li> <li>Annual welfare checks for middle income families</li></ul><br>
Meanwhile, the stock market keep spiraling downward...the speculators see whats happening...they don't like the potential stimulus disastereither...<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image"><br>
I also hope the stimulus plan works but I seriously doubt that it will ...<br><br>Politicians on both side of the fence are responsible for where we are at ... along with irresponsible individuals who continued to spend beyond their means... and wanting the best house with granite counter tops and all the bells and whistles. I blame HGTV for part of the mess :)<br><br>The mess actually goes back to the Clinton administration when certain banking rules were changed ... got worse during the Bush years .... After 9-11, no onewanted to bust the bubble on the housing market since that was a major driver of our economy .... The congress (both R's & D's) did nothing to stopthe problem and acknowledge the housing market and banking problems ... under both Republican and then Democratic control.<br><br>I do feel sorry for individuals who were responsible during this whole mess .... lived within their means .... but have lost their jobs because of the crash... and, their lost job is the only reason they cannot make their payments.<br><br>I bought a foreclosure mid-last year ... the couple bought the house, new construction, in October 2006 and could not even pay their November & December2006 property taxes .... BUT they could install a multi-thousand dollar home automation system. Geesh. And, we got a house that we normally would not havebought because of the price of the house new. <br><br>Another house in our neighborhood went into foreclore. The person bought it, paid no money down, did not have a job (other than being a "daytrader") ....
<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">Redline Whiteline wrote:</strong> <hr> stop focusing on the past, its over, done with ,and can't be changed. you can blame w, and you can blame clinton, and you can blame hw, and all the way back to the beginning which will change nothing. scott is right no one wants failure but the moves have not been good, its shows on wall street and wall street is a huge part of our economy.the economy will, in time, correct itself, without help from the government. the people with the money will buy the forclosuers, they will in turn sell them or rent them for profit. when they make the money they will invest the money and so on and so forth it all works out in the end.that my friend is capitalism, what this country was built on. one thing for sure is a deadbeat will always be a deadbeat and i'm not paying his mortgage dammit. what can i do besides piss and moan???? post the facts and raise awareness! if your unsure about anything, do a little research its all out there <br><br> CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN <br><ul><li>The Dow at a 10-year low.</li> <li>A tax cheat running the IRS</li> <li>Another tax cheat as the Chief of Staff</li> <li>A trillion-dollar plus federal deficit</li> <li>Over one-half of voters relieved of any federal tax liability</li> <li>Government mandated limits on executive compensation</li> <li>Three failed attempts and still no Commerce Secretary</li> <li>Tom Daschle rides his free limo into the sunset - after paying taxes he evaded.</li> <li>The White House performance czar turns out to be a tax cheat also</li> <li>Lobbyists hired to work for the Obama Administration</li> <li>The census gets politicized</li> <li>Double government spending in one year</li> <li>The word "freedom" fades into obscurity</li> <li>Millions of Americans made dependent on government</li> <li>Moving unionization-by-intimidation forward</li> <li>Welfare checks become "tax cuts."</li> <li>Illegal aliens free to work on taxpayer-funded "stimulus" projects</li> <li>Welfare reform reversed, states ordered to increase welfare roles</li> <li>Move to silence critical talk radio shows</li> <li>Selling Senate seats</li> <li>Obama books in religious sections of book stores</li> <li>More government workers, not private sector jobs</li> <li>A government bureaucracy to intrude on doctor/patient relationships</li> <li>Stage set for medical services rationing</li> <li>Annual welfare checks for middle income families</li> </ul><br></blockquote><br><br>So what is LEFT Marko??? A guy one MONTH ON THE JOB and you blame HIM for the past eight years???Again..............again..............again.............again............. What have you done except to piss and moan and what WILL you do in the future????Hmmmmmm........ Let me guess....... Piss and moan. You seem to "identify" many problems, but again.......again........again.......... WHERE ARE YOURSOLUTIONS and a plan to IMPLEMENT said solutions????................ ................. Piss and moan and maybe someone will change it FOR YOU????? ALL you havelisted was already there my man!! RLOL Republicans........ HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHANGE IS AT HAND!!!! BANK IT, BELEIVEIT!!!!!!!!!!! WHHHHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">digrumblers wrote:</strong> <hr><blockquote> i don't think anyone on this board has said way to go obama </blockquote>You stand corrected "WAY TO GO OBAMA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <br><br> There.... I said it and I know I'm not alone... the majority of the country said the exact same thing.... Life is good :) <br><br> Dig <br><br></blockquote><br><br>They may have said it and that is how he got in but, most of them are not on board with this stimulus plan either.<br> They are rewarding people that overspent and most of whom shouldn't even be homeowners. So the country bails them out. Hey why should they start payingnow? The government will just save them again. How the hell is that stimulus? Most of the "stimulus plan" is not going to stimulate anything. That isthe problem! Not that he's only been in office for 1 month. But the fact that the plan sux. Maybe he should've taken 4 months and thought out the planand actually took advice from some people that know? No we wanted to jump into this asap to be a hero.
<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">CHEVY57 wrote:</strong> <hr><blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">digrumblers wrote:</strong> <hr><blockquote> i don't think anyone on this board has said way to go obama </blockquote>You stand corrected "WAY TO GO OBAMA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <br><br> There.... I said it and I know I'm not alone... the majority of the country said the exact same thing.... Life is good :) <br><br> Dig <br><br></blockquote> <br><br> They may have said it and that is how he got in but, most of them are not on board with this stimulus plan either. <br> They are rewarding people that overspent and most of whom shouldn't even be homeowners. So the country bails them out. Hey why should they start paying now? The government will just save them again. How the hell is that stimulus? Most of the "stimulus plan" is not going to stimulate anything. That is the problem! Not that he's only been in office for 1 month. But the fact that the plan sux. Maybe he should've taken 4 months and thought out the plan and actually took advice from some people that know? No we wanted to jump into this asap to be a hero.</blockquote><br><br>Weigh in DIG!!!!! WHAP to Marky Mark and the traveling Piss and Moaners!!!! Hmmmm......... Lemme look........ Petey, Scotty, Marky Mark and a smattering of toycar board folks raising their voices and????? Wow.... PRESIDENT OBAMA is STILL in office running the show!!!!!! WWWWHHHHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Dave,<br>There are many more like us, but most of them don't speak up on the board for fear of getting spanked like you used too.. LOL<br><br>Question how you never once address the plan itself? Do you honestly think it is a good one, or maybe just maybe he should have talked it through with someexperts?
Pete............ And I mean this with ALL sincerity..... There are MANY of pro-Obama folks on this speck of a drop of water in the ocean known as RLOL thatdon't speak for fear of getting "spanked" by you and the Marky Marks of the board, so it's a toss up on that level.<br><br>The Plan...... I voted for the man to come UP with a plan and he put it into place about six months before I ever thought it would happen and he has and he haspicked his crew of "experts" and as far as I know? Scotty, Greg, yourself. myself, Marky Mark etc are NOT on his staff, nor do I want them to be. DoI think it's a good plan?? It's a PLAN Pete, what have we had for the past eight years other than a cluster---- for a President? and WHOM did youexpect to change things, McCAIN/PALIN???? Pete....... You are a very smart guy.... And you know that was not the answer.<br><br>I would love to revisit this scenario six months from now when something has had a chance to somewhat gel, instead of the abject hatred many of you have forthe MAN and not the position. And ya know what??? I bet YOU will still have the cash to buy Canadian redlines and Marky Mark will have the cash to buy whateverhe wants and Scotty will still swill his tequila and piss a cloud of smokey yellow in his own pool by his two story house in the Sacramento suburb he loves somuch!!<br><br>And son??? I've NEVER been spanked, I DOOOOOO THE SPANKING!!!!!!!!!
What am I gonna do with my stimulus money? Stash it away, until the depression has ended.<br><br>Why does this have to be a political debate? This is a financial crisis, not a crisis based on politics.<br><br>This country has brought the world economics to it's knees.<br>I am sure we cannot spend our way out of the crisis, or that any stimulus government spending will patch it up.<br><br><br>Dave, I see you are now drinking the Obama Kool Aid. I am betting your day job is not an economist...<br><br><br><br>Let's see how it plays out.<br>The fat lady has not begun to sing, but she is going to get pretty lean in these tough times...<br><br>Thanks -<br><br>Jerry