Camaro: Is It Real?

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This damm post is going to be longer than Gregs poetry thread.....<br><br>Oh and Scott thanks for the seizure.............

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<strong>Last Edited By: TrueIceBlue 07/23/09 4:29 PM. Edited 5 times.</strong><br><br>5 times?<br><br>Milo,you have to mean what you say,and say what you mean..lol.<br><br><br>All I can say is you, better be sure he keeps his word on the refund guarantee.<br><br>Frank

What would you do if someone "backdoored" your Camaro and it turned out to be real because to prcrastinated so long? I think you are waiting forsomeone to say "Hey, that IS enamel" but by then someone else will own it. If you weren't sure then you shouldn't have bid on it. I thinkthis is a Jerry Springer type post. We're tired of seeing it but we still look to see what else members write. lol.

This damm post is going to be longer than Gregs poetry thread.....<br>The hashing and rehashing still hasn't brought the horse back from the dead...

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">GPHWHEELS wrote:</strong> <hr> What would you do if someone "backdoored" your Camaro and it turned out to be real because to prcrastinated so long? I think you are waiting for someone to say "Hey, that IS enamel" but by then someone else will own it. If you weren't sure then you shouldn't have bid on it. I think this is a Jerry Springer type post. We're tired of seeing it but we still look to see what else members write. lol.</blockquote><br>lol! I thought that might happen so I contacted the seller and made sure he still had it<br>before I made payment 2 days ago. All was good. Yesterday I got a email stating my purchase will be shipped by paypal. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/tongue.gif" alt="image"><br>In a earlier email I did ask the seller if the paint on the car looked redline spectraflame or redline enamel and he said it looked more enamel. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eek.gif" alt="image"><img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif" alt="image"><br>I have bid on regular/irregular cars I was not sure about quite a few times and usually it came out all good. Hopefully this is the case with this enamelCamaro.<br><br>Let me ask another few questions: If the Camaro is checked out by me and a few fellow members in the Valley and the Camaro shows absolutley no<br>signs of being a repaint,color is dark green enamel(can't tell with auction pics sometimes) would I be able to call it as original even with nodocumentation?<br><br>Documentation could exsist just has not surfaced yet because of no inquiries (never crossed anyones mind) or the ex-employee died with the documentation<br>just packed away and forgotten or maybe even thrown away by family etc....I have seen rarities surface and sell with no history and still fetched a<br>pretty penny. I know this is speculation but like others have said "in the redline world,never say never". I am sure there will be more unknownoriginal<br>Redlines that will surface needing varification (from pro's) without documintation. Is this possible? Maybe Mattel scrapped the enamel dark green Camarofor unknown reasons<br>so any documintation was discarded at the Mattel factory/offices etc...? <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/grin.gif" alt="image"><br>Can legit prototype,ex-employee,salesman sample,lunch car redlines etc...with lost or forgotten history/documintation still be embrased by some or will they be<br>considered worthless by all even though legit? <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/tongue.gif" alt="image"> Does anyone here havea rarity with no history/documentation? Or is it hush hush?<br><br>Don't anyone get mad or take these questions personal, I am just trying to learn more here as always. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/ohwell.gif" alt="image"><br>9 years of extensive collecting and extensive learning about redlines has taught me a lot so I hope to have<br>at least some merit. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/tired.gif" alt="image"><br><br><br><br>

<blockquote> If the Camaro is checked out by me and a few fellow members in the Valley and the Camaro shows absolutley no <br> signs of being a repaint,color is dark green enamel(can't tell with auction pics sometimes) would I be able to call it as original even with no documentation?</blockquote><br><br>In my opinion, no. But I base my opinion on being an antiques dealer and with most antiques you really need to cross your T's and dot your I's withverified provenance. To be honest, the redline world doesn't work that way right now. I've seen collectors drop thousands of dollars on a car justbecause someone says is a "salesman's sample" with no verification, no documentation, no proof and no provenance. Just the word of the seller(hey you know me buddy, would I lie to you? It's a salesman sample, really!)<br><br>Right now many of the rarest and most valuable redlines have documentation and known history ... but a newly discovered prototype can still be documented.There are many former Mattel employees who could verify whether or not Camaros were test-painted in green enamel or any other enamel color other than the knownwhite ones. And there's a lot of paperwork floating around that documents certain production aspects of HWs. You just have to figure out how to contactthe former employees and those who have acquired the paperwork, and ask.<br><br>It's not difficult to make a perfect, undectable repaint forgery, we only catch the obvious ones. There are already too many undocumented"rare" and "prototype" and "unique" cars floating around with no documentation, and it's only going to get worse. Sooner orlater, collectors will wise up and stop paying big bucks for something that is really nothing unless there's PROOF. <br><br>OK I'll get off my rant now. Point is, right now you can call that green Camaro any kind of unique proto you want. And maybe if you can line up somehigh-profile collectors to agree with you, the redline world will agree it's the real deal too. But down the road, it's just going to be anotherCamaro unless you get real authentication from an employee who was there and saw it painted, or a Mattel memo saying "test enamel green on some '68castings to see if they would be appropriate for the '73 lineup" or whatever.<br><br>