You really want Obama to be the next President of the U.S.A?

Thanks 6 pak for clearing that up, and Jamie I am just saying you never know, I dont care what group there in, they all praise to that bs god allah, and anyonethat believes that garbage should not be President, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Call me what you want, but what happened to our country on 911 was because of Allahbelievers. I know htere is good muslims and islams, but this country is crazy trying to put one in office, My 2 cents. <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/tongue.gif" alt="image"><br>Eric

Once and for all, Obama is not Muslim!<br><br><br>He's Jewish. Look and see.<br><br><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080724/capt.5fb26477303d4e3aaa0c2506e3cfafb9.obama_mideast__isrh107.jpg" alt="image"><br><br><br>Besides, would Israel like him so much if he were Muslim?<br>- Absolutely not!<br><br>If he were Muslim would he get campaign donations from AIPAC?<br>- Hardly.<br><br>If he were Muslim would Israel have allowed him to advance this far in the election?<br>- Not a chance!<br><br>Now, don't get me wrong. He'd make just as bad a president as McCain but to vote against him without critically analyzing the propaganda is, well,it's downright <img src="http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0703/NewfieRose/EMOTICONS/ef5530ce.gif" alt="image">.<br><br>"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." ~ George Bernard Shaw<br><br>Gramps<br>

I'll be very surprised if Obama is elected, IMHO there are too many people who won't vote for him because of personal issues, some because he is black,some because he may be a closet Muslim, some because of his inexperience, some just because we don't know enough about him. Others just because theydon't trust him. So they will vote for the only other choice. And many will cast their vote for McCain because they feel that he is the most qualified ofthe two candidates. Put it all together and it spells McCain... <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eyes.gif" alt="image">Michael

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">gumpys wrote:</strong> <hr> Thanks 6 pak for clearing that up, and Jamie I am just saying you never know, I dont care what group there in, they all praise to that bs god allah, and anyone that believes that garbage should not be President, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Call me what you want, but what happened to our country on 911 was because of Allah believers. I know htere is good muslims and islams, but this country is crazy trying to put one in office, My 2 cents. <img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/tongue.gif"><br> Eric</blockquote><p> I was just pointing out that the two groups are very different, and he is supposedly associated with one and not the other. I don't want a muslim ofany form in the office of President either. I can't vote for him or McCain, neither will be good for us. I will most likely vote for Bob Barr. Grantedhe won't win, but at least my vote will go to the candidate I can stand behind with good conscience. The Republican party has a candidate that wants tolean to the center to try to get more support, and the Democratic party has a candidate who is into slogans but hasn't said anything. Change we canbelieve in--what change exactly?? Go Libertarian, smaller government, lower taxes, more freedom.<br><br>"If he were Muslim would Israel have allowed him to advance this far in the election?<br>- Not a chance!" Gramps, your conspiracy theories always make me smile! <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif"></p>

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">Charger68 wrote:</strong> <hr> What do you know about the "American Experience" Mike?? <br><br> Later, Dave</blockquote><p> I am going to grit my teeth and try real hard to be civil to you.Here goes. At the risk of repeating myself I know one thing for sure about the"American experience". The separation of church and state is a fundamental part of the "American experience".<br></p>

I think ya need to grit em' harder and worry about your own piece of land...eh? And until you CAN truly experience it as a CITIZEN of the US i don'tthink you have the right to pass judgement on our government, you can't vote and therefore do NOT have a say. Just as I don't in your country.<br><br>Later, Dave

<blockquote> ...and electronic voting machines are rigged far too easily. Besides...the "sanctioned" candidates are far too similar to make much difference anyway. <br><br> What we need is a real third party involved. <br><br> But until that day comes....</blockquote>Dave,<br><br>If the electronic voting machines are so easily rigged, who is it that is doing the rigging? Is it the Republicans, and if so, why aren't the Democratsscreaming bloody murder - and how would you explain November 2006? Is it the Democrats, and if so, why aren't the Republicans screaming bloody murder -and how would you explain the last two presidential elections? Or is it, as Gramps calls them, "the people in and behind the government" - and ifso, are the Republicans and Democrats complicit with these people (and if so, is all the hatred between the two parties just an act?)?<br><br>Lastly, if indeed the electronic machines are all rigged and there is some great conspiracy, what difference would a third party make?<br><br><blockquote> Gramps, your conspiracy theories always make me smile! <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif" alt="image"></blockquote>There's a mysterious black van permanently parked around the corner from Gramps house...<br><br>Doug

<blockquote> <strong class="quote-title">Charger68 wrote:</strong> <hr> I think ya need to grit em' harder and worry about your own piece of land...eh? And until you CAN truly experience it as a CITIZEN of the US i don't think you have the right to pass judgement on our government, you can't vote and therefore do NOT have a say. Just as I don't in your country. <br><br> Later, Dave</blockquote><p> I think I'll do as I please.If you don't like it i suggest you focus on wondering where your head is at again.---mike<br></p>

No need, your head is already in the way......eh?<br><br>Later, Dave

it seems a bit wacky that people are arguing about not wanting a muslim president, seeing as how NEITHER candidate is muslim. its common knowledge that obamahas been a practicing christian since the mid 80's, years before he even got started in politics. its preposterous to entertain the idea that he is somesort of closet radical muslim seeking the presidency in order to undermine and overthrow our government, i.e. the anti christ. its frightening to think that inthis day and age people still believe in biblical endtimes nonsense.<br><br>as far as allah goes, i hate to break it to some people here, but technically, "that bs god allah" is the same god as the christian AND jewish god.all three religions stem from the god of abraham, they just disagree about the divinity of christ, among many other things. that's the irony that reallymakes the hatred between these religions totally absurd, that they all pray to the SAME GOD, but hate each other for the way they celebrate and worship him. toinsinuate that all muslims are inherintly bad is no different than claiming that all christians are cross burning klansmen. all western religions have branchesthat cross the spectrum from loving, peaceful coexistence to violent, deep seated hatred of all things different from their beliefs. it is ignorant andhypocritcal to hate another religion because it has factions that commit evil in the name of their god. all religions have this problem. ever hear of thecrusades? how about the holocaust? do these church sanctioned events make all christians evil? why should the actions of of radical muslims make all believersof that faith bad people? at the end of the day, no one really knows who is right about god and the afterlife. to claim that one religion is good and right andall others are not, based on no hard facts whatsoever, only makes a fool out of the believer.