I would like some education.........

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07-01-2009, 08:20 PM
Charger68

I would like some education.........

And I'm NOT being factious!! Like a lot of you i've been following the MJ real life movie of the week and I caught Larry King last night and have asimple question WHO in the blue hell is All Sharpton and why is he at every famous black person's death these days?? What does he do, what has he done,what is (and Jesse Jackson for that matter) purpose in life?? He kept making references to Michael's tremendous influence on the black talent today (and I do agree with a lot of that, just look at the curent videos!)but is it because he is/was black, or just good?? Michael erased everything that was outwardly visible that associated him with being black and selected awhite woman to bear his kids, married Lisa Marie etc, so there was a lot he seemed to do to put distance from himself being black. Sharpton went on to say if there were no Michael Jackson there wouldn't have been a path for such people as Tiger Woods and Barrack Obama??? Both of themare HALF white, where is the mention of that? I dunno...... The guy just strikes me as a parasite, more than he is a healer...........
07-01-2009, 08:46 PM
99octane

I've had the exact same feeling Dave. Jamie Fox had some strange comments too, after he did his jacko impersonation at some awards show a night or two ago he made a big deal about Michael Jackson being a "black man" (he said it with strong emphasis twice) and then said (get this): that Michael Jackson "....belongs to us", meaning the African American community, and that they had simply "shared" him with the rest of the world. I was really taken aback; I mean .. it's one thing to be proud of your herritage, but I feel a bit bashed over the head by Michael's memory here, for a cause (sic; "black pride") that I doubt the author of a song where he repeated that "it doesn't matter if you're back or white" would approve of. Greg
07-01-2009, 09:02 PM
toysalot

I agree with both of you immensely. Jamie Fox and Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would never say those racist remarks while Michael was alive. Michael obviously wasn't happy with the race he was born into so he changed it. Amazing what money can do for you...
07-01-2009, 09:20 PM
MINGOTOY

This Rev. Al Sharpton is a fat ass idiot reverend who is robbing his congregation blind. He is everywhere except his church. Hegets tons of dollars from his church members. He also didn't pay his taxes and got off easy. He charges for his speeches. I absolutely hate the SOB andif I drive into NYC and see his fat ass crossing the street, I might hit the brakes late while adjusting the radio station and opening my sun roof . Heyaccidents happen, right? He is always causing a scandal wherever he goes in NY. He will show up wherever a black person dies. Sometimes, it is a just causebut in this case like in the recent shooting of a black officer by a white cop. He asked for new training procedures for the NYC police and he was absolutelycorrect in demanding it. Yes, they need to be re-trained and not assume that all blacks holding a gun are thugs and that some of them are actually cops.....He has no bleeping business being there in LA. He loves to be in the news. I don't know how his congregation lets him getaway with this. He drivesaround in a nice, expensive car and he is always well dressed and yet he talks about NY 's poor black folks. Perhaps, if he drove an old car and ateless, there would be a fewer black poor folks in NYC. He thinks that he is a civil rights leader but he isn't. His creditability went out the door when he supported Tawana Brawley years ago. This girlclaimed that she was assaulted by white teenagers when in reality she is a wacko and smeared her own body w/ her own feces. She lied. Sharpton was there nextto her yelling for the police to get these white people that did her wrong. In the end, she was a liar and Sharpton never apologized to NY. Anyway, he isa nobody who thinks that he is a somebody. If I were black, I would be embarrassed by this man. Anyway, he's got to be in his 70's. His runwill be ending soon..... and I won't apologize if I offend someone. I live in NY and see this jerk's face just about every day in the paper so havesome compassion for me and every other New Yorker that reads a NY newspaper. maribell
07-01-2009, 09:21 PM
rdln66

<blockquote> toysalot wrote: <hr> Michael obviously wasn't happy with the race he was born into so he changed it. </blockquote>Don't know about that statement Jeff. He wanted to be the total opposite of his father...The man he seen in his mirror when he was younger.
07-01-2009, 09:26 PM
The Toy Peddler

"His creditability went out the door when he supported Tawana Brawley years ago. This girl claimed that she was assaulted by whiteteenagers when in reality she is a wacko and smeared her own body w/ her own feces. She lied. Sharpton was there next to her yelling for the police to getthese white people that did her wrong. In the end, she was a liar and Sharpton never apologized to NY." Great point! This wasn't the only time he was on the wrong side and didn't admit it.
07-01-2009, 09:31 PM
Charger68

<blockquote> MINGOTOY wrote: <hr>This Rev. Al Sharpton is a fat ass idiot reverend who is robbing his congregation blind. He is everywhere except his church. He gets tons of dollars from his church members. He also didn't pay his taxes and got off easy. He charges for his speeches. I absolutely hate the SOB and if I drive into NYC and see his fat ass crossing the street, I might hit the brakes late while adjusting the radio station and opening my sun roof . Hey accidents happen, right? He is always causing a scandal wherever he goes in NY. He will show up wherever a black person dies. Sometimes, it is a just cause but in this case like in the recent shooting of a black officer by a white cop. He asked for new training procedures for the NYC police and he was absolutely correct in demanding it. Yes, they need to be re-trained and not assume that all blacks holding a gun are thugs and that some of them are actually cops..... He has no bleeping business being there in LA. He loves to be in the news. I don't know how his congregation lets him getaway with this. He drives around in a nice, expensive car and he is always well dressed and yet he talks about NY 's poor black folks. Perhaps, if he drove an old car and ate less, there would be a fewer black poor folks in NYC. He thinks that he is a civil rights leader but he isn't. His creditability went out the door when he supported Tawana Brawley years ago. This girl claimed that she was assaulted by white teenagers when in reality she is a wacko and smeared her own body w/ her own feces. She lied. Sharpton was there next to her yelling for the police to get these white people that did her wrong. In the end, she was a liar and Sharpton never apologized to NY. Anyway, he is a nobody who thinks that he is a somebody. If I were black, I would be embarrassed by this man. Anyway, he's got to be in his 70's. His run will be ending soon..... and I won't apologize if I offend someone. I live in NY and see this jerk's face just about every day in the paper so have some compassion for me and every other New Yorker that reads a NY newspaper. maribell</blockquote> Thanks Maribell, I was looking for someone with some insight n the guy, he just strikes me as a sad gadfly, BUT...... He did drop some major poundage!
07-01-2009, 09:45 PM
ndakotan

<blockquote> Charger68 wrote: <hr> Thanks Maribell, I was looking for someone with some insight n the guy, he just strikes me as a sad gadfly, BUT...... He did drop some major poundage!</blockquote>Not hard to do Dave, when you're full of it. A little extra fiber in the diet and...
07-01-2009, 09:52 PM
Striderxl

<blockquote> The Toy Peddler wrote: <hr>"His creditability went out the door when he supported Tawana Brawley years ago. This girl claimed that she was assaulted by white teenagers when in reality she is a wacko and smeared her own body w/ her own feces. She lied. Sharpton was there next to her yelling for the police to get these white people that did her wrong. In the end, she was a liar and Sharpton never apologized to NY." Great point! This wasn't the only time he was on the wrong side and didn't admit it. </blockquote> I lived thru this as it happened while I was in high school right down the street.I actually now her boyfriends sister.She tried to make sure whe didnt getinto trouble and it went way over board and the celebes who came out to help her were mostly tring to be good,but not Al. He helped ruin a few lives here.Nooneup here likes him and it doesnt matter if he was white or black.I do have to say he has changed for the better since back then but he still is all abouthimself.
07-01-2009, 09:59 PM
MINGOTOY

Yes,he has lost some weight. Oh yes, the hair, it's a tribute to James Brown who was Sharpton's idol. Hmm, I wonder if he willchange hair styles now. He was also very present when James Brown died. He just wants to be in the news. Anyway, whenever I see his ugly mug on the tv, Ichange the channel or leave the room. maribell
07-01-2009, 10:38 PM
PeepingScott

Yup, vomit material for sure...<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eyes.gif" alt="image"> It's sad that these so called leaders have such a large following... Agitators they are... You see, I think as long as they make race an issue, they will always have a job, if that's what you want to call it. Could you imagine if"racism" were to end today, what would those clowns do??? Maybe work like most folks?? Poverty Pimps... They are the Reverends of Racism...
07-01-2009, 10:50 PM
Iamredliner

2027 is when they will open the files surrounding MLK's death. Why? For those that don't remember......Jesse Jackson was partaking of the whores thatthey had up there that evening going between the rooms. Remember MLK was on the "outs" with his marriage when he was shot. Then Jesse went on tocommit Adultery and have a child out of wedlock when he was crucifying others for the same things. He wants to cut Obama's nuts off but then cries withthat Biotch Ooooprah when he is elected. It's called hypocrisy folks. Sharpton fits the same mold. Condoleeza? c'mon baby! We need you to straighten these folks out! Condy in 12. To the moderators.......I didn't say anything bad about your Presidenteither.......or post a youtube video location of a funny MJ spoof video! Look up Home Alone Again with MJ .....it was a spoof done by Mad TV. Hilarious!
07-01-2009, 11:10 PM
Striderxl

<blockquote> PeepingScott wrote: <hr> Yup, vomit material for sure...<img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eyes.gif"> It's sad that these so called leaders have such a large following... Agitators they are... You see, I think as long as they make race an issue, they will always have a job, if that's what you want to call it. Could you imagine if "racism" were to end today, what would those clowns do??? Maybe work like most folks?? Poverty Pimps... They are the Reverends of Racism... </blockquote>The problem is racism wont ever end. There is always someone who thinks they are better than someone else. I actually see more racism now than 20years ago. Im amazed that in this day people still think like this. There will always be people like this and dont forget we have many Al Sharptons in thewhite community. There is always someone on the look out to make a quick buck no matter what color they are.
07-01-2009, 11:19 PM
PeepingScott

<blockquote> dont forget we have many Al Sharptons in the white community.</blockquote> We do? Please name them to refresh my memory. David Duke is one that I know of, another piece O' Sh.....
07-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Striderxl

<blockquote> PeepingScott wrote: <hr><blockquote> dont forget we have many Al Sharptons in the white community. </blockquote> We do? Please name them to refresh my memory. David Duke is one that I know of, another piece O' Sh..... </blockquote> How about all these elected officals who preach attack others for breaking the moral codes and are breaking them while condeming others.We have Preacherstelling people that Gays will go to hell and shouldnt have the same rights and what are they doing in the closet????? When they use these causes for their owngood and for their own advancement either for power or money, they are doing the same thing. Al just happens to have a legit cause to abuse.
07-01-2009, 11:31 PM
Charger68

Yeah........ I'm afraid if that were the case we would have armageddon.......
07-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Striderxl

<blockquote> Charger68 wrote: <hr> Yeah........ I'm afraid if that were the case we would have armageddon.......</blockquote>What if the people we count on and elect actually did something that helped the people and not themselves? I guess the Devil would need a coat andsome gloves.
07-01-2009, 11:38 PM
McGoose

Yep. If Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson smell a few bucks, Its like the road runner dust cloud to the closest camera.
07-02-2009, 12:24 AM
sverrefehn

<blockquote> To the moderators.......I didn't say anything bad about your President either.......</blockquote>Quite presumptuous of you don't you think? How do you know who "our" President is? Do you claim to know the party affiliations andvoting records of all of us? If you must know, I delete just as many posts unfavorable to conservatives/Republicans as I do liberals/Democrats.
07-02-2009, 08:29 AM
PeepingScott

<blockquote> How about all these elected officals who preach attack others for breaking the moral codes and are breaking them while condeming others.We have Preachers telling people that Gays will go to hell and shouldnt have the same rights and what are they doing in the closet????? When they use these causes for their own good and for their own advancement either for power or money, they are doing the same thing. Al just happens to have a legit cause to abuse.</blockquote> Huh? How is that "having many Al Sharptons in the white community"? I don't get the comparison, other than calling elected officials andpreachers self serving hypocrites. Al Sharpton stirs up racial controversy. I thought thats what we were discussing. What you stated are whole different subjects that can't be discussed onthis forum. Still waiting for the names of the white racists who stir up controversy and show up at any white disaster or hate crime against whites...Where are they?
07-02-2009, 10:17 AM
arkmanxx

Lest we forget...3 college students (I've forgotten the name of the college or university) at a frat party where supposedly a black woman was raped bythese guys. Immediately, Sharpton and Jackson show up in the black girl's defense, (and screaming that these college students should be in prison-saying itway before the case ever went to trial) and these college students were put through a very strenuous and hurtful trial. In the end, the black girl admittedshe lied. But these 3 students now have a tarnished record for the rest of their lives...and they were completely innocent-as ruled by the judge and jury. DidSharpton or Jackson ever apologize. NO! I think they are both hateful racists, hiding behind a 'Reverend' title. Their whole game is playing the race card. Allan
07-02-2009, 01:07 PM
groggerbug

I don't even know where to begin in response, and don't have time to write a dissertation... but it's very sad to see the thinly disguised racistsentiment that is being articulated here...
07-02-2009, 01:17 PM
PeepingScott

Greg, I don't see any racism except the racism propagated by Jackson and Sharpton. They strive and live for it it seems to me, and seems others feel that waytoo. If Jackson and Sharpton didn't exist, would things be better or worse racially? I think I know the answer, but I'm curious what others think. Those two guys love the limelight, and are quick to jump at any opportunity, whether valid or not!<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eyes.gif" alt="image"> What good is that?
07-02-2009, 01:17 PM
cockycpa

I've been here just a short while, so apologies if I'm stepping over the line, but is it ever possible for you to simply say "I disagree?"Must you always cloak your point of view in self-righteous indignation?
07-02-2009, 01:20 PM
cockycpa

Oops, I meant to follow post #21.
07-02-2009, 01:37 PM
groggerbug

You're right, cocky; and calling out racism is putting self-righteous indignation to good use.
07-02-2009, 01:44 PM
cockycpa

That's cool. It just occurs to me that "I'll be along later when I have more time to set you racists straight" doesn't strike me as aparticularly conducive method to get someone to respect your point of view. Of course, I may be assuming incorrectly that your aim is do just that. As far as Al Sharpton is concerned, I don't know what I'd say about him since I'd expect that most would agree that he's a knucklehead.Pointing it out just seems to me to be as necessary as saying 'hey, anybody notice the sky is blue?'
07-02-2009, 02:17 PM
groggerbug

I have no interest in "setting anyone straight"; but I will always be shocked at racism, and will always say so when I see it. If that'sself-righteous indignation, then so be it.
07-02-2009, 02:46 PM
cockycpa

Okay. Hmmm, since the title of the thread is 'education' perhaps I can also gain the insight and ability to read the hearts of posters based upon a fewoffhand message board musings.
07-02-2009, 02:51 PM
Striderxl

<blockquote> PeepingScott wrote: <hr><blockquote> How about all these elected officals who preach attack others for breaking the moral codes and are breaking them while condeming others.We have Preachers telling people that Gays will go to hell and shouldnt have the same rights and what are they doing in the closet????? When they use these causes for their own good and for their own advancement either for power or money, they are doing the same thing. Al just happens to have a legit cause to abuse. </blockquote> Huh? How is that "having many Al Sharptons in the white community"? I don't get the comparison, other than calling elected officials and preachers self serving hypocrites. Al Sharpton stirs up racial controversy. I thought thats what we were discussing. What you stated are whole different subjects that can't be discussed on this forum. Still waiting for the names of the white racists who stir up controversy and show up at any white disaster or hate crime against whites...Where are they? </blockquote> Dude I live right in the middle of this and have for the whole Sharpton thing. He is an ass but alot of what he says about racism is true. How many times haveyou heard of a white guy getting shot 40+ times? He is in it to make money but he does have facts to back him up. Show me where white people get harassed likeminorities do? These other guys do the same thing but in a different way. Also I hear alot more white people using racial language when talking aboutminorities than I do here Black and Spanish using language against white people. I have worked in Harlem and NYC for more than 15 years and in NY my wholelife. I have heard and read about Sharpton since Tawana Brawley and have thouhgt he is self centered and horrible but he does bring up some good points aboutracism. Also show me all of these white hate crimes your talking about? I can list a dozen or more Black and other minority hate crimes.
07-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Striderxl

<blockquote> PeepingScott wrote: <hr> Greg, I don't see any racism except the racism propagated by Jackson and Sharpton. They strive and live for it it seems to me, and seems others feel that way too. If Jackson and Sharpton didn't exist, would things be better or worse racially? I think I know the answer, but I'm curious what others think. Those two guys love the limelight, and are quick to jump at any opportunity, whether valid or not!<img alt="image" src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eyes.gif"> What good is that? </blockquote>Dude you live in a very nice world. Racism is everywhere and by ignoring it or blaming it on these 2 people ( who I still dislike and notdefending them) is to allow it to continue.As for jumping on every opportunity yes I think they are limelight seekers but it doesnt make the racism any less orwould make it go away.
07-02-2009, 03:58 PM
PeepingScott

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07-02-2009, 04:15 PM
Striderxl

Scott I agree that there are crimes on all colors but to tell you the truth the crimes Sharpton mainly brings up are crimes you wont see on white people. AgainI ask how many white people have been shot 40+ times by police while reaching for their wallets or in their cars? In NYC that has happened twice in the lastfew years. The media also reports more white on black crimes because it is usually a bigger crime (ie 40+ bullets).I would also like to know what are thecrimes on whites? If it was to the same extent as some of the racial crimes on blacks I would bet it would get more news play.In NYC we hear of alot of antiJewish crimes also but very little anti white crimes. All kinds of racism is out there but most isnt done by authority figures to white people, at least notbecause they are white. And you have to admit that the countries history on bias crimes isnt that good with Whites angainst everyone else. Mainly what I amtrying to say is that if someone doesnt speak out about these crimes than they will continue and would I like someone other than Sharpton? Yes Mainly I likeSharptons recent coming out with black on black crimes and harsh lyrics in rap songs.I agree with him on alot of that. As for speaking out I am all for that as long as we are civil. I hope you see my posts and dont think I am trying to preach to anyone, as these are myfeelings.I hope we can continue to have conversations like these in the future.
07-02-2009, 04:21 PM
Beach bomb

"what is (and Jesse Jackson for that matter) purpose in life?? " They show up when there is money or cameras involved. They stir the !@@$ then hold out their hands. They are useless, worthless pieces of cow dung! How ever, they managed to make a living at it and I'm breaking my back 40 hours a week. I guess you can't call them stupid. Tim
07-02-2009, 08:59 PM
toysalot

jesse jackson and al sharpton(no caps owed) are opportunists. They take advantage of being black to yell the race card every chance they get. They alsothreaten companies with protest marches if the companies don't donate millions of dollars their 'non-profit' organizations.That non-profit ofjesses is how he paid off the mother of his child that was concieved out of wedlock in fact, he was married to his wife and he fathered that kid. Hisnon-profit also bought the mother a big beautiful home for them to live in...for free! That has happened more times than can be counted. jesses sons even gotbudwieser franchises because of those exact threats. Yes, they are making millios from selling bud. It's all documented but when it is brought to the media, the media is afraid to report it for fear of retribution and those 'marches.' jackson is not a stupid man. He takes advantage of his skin color and he does it very well. He has amassed a fortune from lying and cheating many manycompanies out of millions of dollars. His company is Rainbow push Coalition...what a joke!!! enough said...

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