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Why, i sell items here to help fellow collectors out then weeks later see the very same items on ebay, being sold... not just one item but all.. where are all the true collectors...
And when i see an item being offered, i am too late already sold and then again i see it on ebay!! what gives.
Pisses me off!!
To piss you off, of course!
That would piss me off too, I am a collector and not a re seller, so you can send me your redlines and I promise I won't resell them ;)
Some people are not collectors... they just trying to make an extra buck I guess. Like you, I get very frustrated seeing a nice car sold, then for sale for 3x the price one week later!
I have grown my collection substantially since I have joined this site, the guys here are great and usually so are the prices. I would hope that that would stay the same and that the ones trying to cash in on your generosity, won't ruin it for the rest of us.
[QUOTE=ravenstang;454051]Some people are not collectors... they just trying to make an extra buck I guess. Like you, I get very frustrated seeing a nice car sold, then for sale for 3x the price one week later![/QUOTE]
I think I know who this is directed at...that being said, once I sell something on b/s/t, I understand fully that it's a final sale, and beyond my control afterwards.
When I sell on b/s/t, I really don't care what happens to the cars once they are paid for. HOWEVER, when someone sweet talks you out of a car because they "need it" for either their bow, or their personal collection, then soon afterwards you see someone else owns it and paid more $$$ to acquire it, then that's a different story.
There are many places I scan for items for sale to nab and re-sell. Not here though.
Hey Scott, I've still got the blue Open Fire you sold me and you definitely wont see it on ebay or any where else for that matter for sale. I would never forgive myself if I did.
Shane
Yep....beware the people who tell you that they "really need it for their collection". Way too many times I've seen those items flipped for profit soon after. Many times, it's done by members you wouldn't expect it from too. Just another reminder to be aware and to make sure you get what you are comfortable with when making a sale. If you give a deal to help someone out from the goodness of your heart, be sure that you know the person well, otherwise you may be left with that empty feeling when you see that car flipped for profit.
If I buy something here or anywhere, it is mine and I can do with it what I want. If I wanna sell it, I sell it. The person who sold it to me has absolutely no right to say anything because I paid the price and took ownership of the item.
I have, however, made deals with certain high end collectors/sellers that if I ever go to sell the items I bought from them, I would give them the first chance to buy it back. This has happened more than just a few times.
I know some members here who do the flipping thing and have pissed off certain selling members because he talked them out of selling a redline to someone else for more money to sell it to him. Then he put it up for sale real soon on the bst and sold it for more money than his 'buddy' sold it to him for.
Kinda made me chuckle when I heard about all the drama surrounding the selling of those redlines.
Well, If I did not sell mine, then I would not have the kinda cars I have now. I would have ...... the dozen beaters I started back up with a couple years back. I started back up collecting and bought about a dozen $5 cars, and now have over 130 worth over 10k.
I use to do it with my kids, now my youngest is 14 and could care less about a toy car. I talk redlines, he nods his head, and ignores me. Just dad talking cars.
So, I'm the only one that enjoys looking at my cars in my case. But like most of us, if someone offered you alot for a car, it we be gone, and searching for better one. Example: The staff car I have had for about a year. If someone buys it for what I want, then It will be gone, and I will find me another cool 442 to take its place.
I do have the cars I would never sell, the couple of RAOK I have received. And my Corvettes and 2 Rodger Dodgers that were my oldest sons favorites, since they remind me of him.
So I think alot of us that do not have disposable income for toy cars to look at, have what I call a Cool Rotating Collection.
Not much you can do about it..it is what it it.
I do sell redlines once in a while,sometimes I just want to change things up a bit.
Not always do I remember who I bought what from though.
I sold a Green Cord latley and when I posted a price for it I was higher than what it was bought for.
The buyer who bought was very happy though becuase once I remembered the story on it I sold it to him for the same price that I bought it for.
I will continue to sell cars once in a while,but even here on RLOL your listed price is starting to mean nothing.You should see some of the offers I got on some of my sales...haaa
That most times means thier buying it for resale.Those 65 minty shell promos I had up for grabs here on the board a while back.Well I had a member here offer and tell me that
they are only worth 1000.00 bucks.I pretty much told that member to go back to the HWC...LOL
Rick
[QUOTE=toysalot;454153]If I buy something here or anywhere, it is mine and I can do with it what I want. If I wanna sell it, I sell it. The person who sold it to me has absolutely no right to say anything because I paid the price and took ownership of the item.
I have, however, made deals with certain high end collectors/sellers that if I ever go to sell the items I bought from them, I would give them the first chance to buy it back. This has happened more than just a few times.
I know some members here who do the flipping thing and have pissed off certain selling members because he talked them out of selling a redline to someone else for more money to sell it to him. Then he put it up for sale real soon on the bst and sold it for more money than his 'buddy' sold it to him for.
Kinda made me chuckle when I heard about all the drama surrounding the selling of those redlines.[/QUOTE]
A chuckle is always nice, and true, when you buy the car it's yours to do with what you want. The point is, (and I'm speaking rhetorically, not to you directly) what kind of person do you want to be known as? Is your reputation important to you? Are you interested in being a positive part of a community or are you just interested in being an opportunist in the interest of profit? People remember, and soon, you don't get those deals anymore.
[QUOTE=sverrefehn;454169]A chuckle is always nice, and true, when you buy the car it's yours to do with what you want. The point is, (and I'm speaking rhetorically, not to you directly) what kind of person do you want to be known as? Is your reputation important to you? Are you interested in being a positive part of a community or are you just interested in being an opportunist in the interest of profit? People remember, and soon, you don't get those deals anymore.[/QUOTE]
Steve, I am sure many members here know about the issue that made me 'chuckle'. There are several members here that do the same thing. But for those members that tell a seller "I must have that for my collection" and then flip it...you are 100% correct that their reputation will slowly work its way around the community and once it gets around, those deals will go away.
The general rule to sell by is...if I don't want to sell it, then I don't. Plain and simple.
If I do sell something, then I have no business caring what the buyer does with it. Plain and simple.
Thanks for all the input peoples...
I find the board isn't the same as it use to be, and now i know why!
i thought as a community we were all trying to do the same, build a collection! Not get rich off of each other!
I used to be a really hardcore "buy everything" type of collector. My styles changed and displays changed over the near 11 year span. But I now don't collect as heavy and I may buy something for myself, it is rare. My recent score was my long-lost Hotwheels City Center. That one ain't goin anywhere! I also flip and "pick" to earn money. I scour junkyards, garage sales, thrift stores, etc. My most recent score was a collection of 174 cars, I kept couple of cars in the lot I bought. But the rest I plan to sell. If I wasn't flipping, I'd still do it as I have about 85% or more of those cars already.
I don't buy Hot Wheels to flip on a regular basis, only because so few sell out of the lot and I end up breaking even or not making enough to make it worth it. My bread and butter is with car parts from junkyards. I have quite a few parts for a '72 Montego GT and a few parts for a '65 Galaxie.
As for people selling cars, it is the seller's reponsibility if they wish to sell the car at that price. If they sell the car dirt cheap, then see it for sale again, thats the SELLER'S problem if they went too low. The buyer got a good deal and what he does with the car after he gets it is his business. I don't buy things from here to flip, but for those who do, its they're business, not mine.
heh, a few years back, I had something for sale, and a member approached me with a low ball offer..and told me he needed it for his collection---the last piece he needed!
I sold it for a loss, and I felt good about it.
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Until I saw it on eBay 2 weeks later at more money than my original asking price.
I have no problem with anyone buying my items at the price I am asking--whatever they do with it after is ok, it is theirs----I needed a quick sale, and got the $$ I needed at the time.
HOWEVER, dont grind me down on the price with a LIE, then flip it....
[QUOTE=rickhotwheels;454194]Thanks for all the input peoples...
I find the board isn't the same as it use to be, and now i know why!
i thought as a community we were all trying to do the same, build a collection! Not get rich off of each other![/QUOTE]
Most of us are trying to build our collections Rick but like the old saying goes, "a few bad apples can screw up the whole bushel" There are many people here and on ebay that strictly buy to try sell for a profit. I have weeded those buyers out of my mind and moved on. Once I find out someone is like that, I consider it a learning experience and move on, never to sell to them again, for any reason.
I hope this little issue won't deter you from collecting and having fun doing it.
You have some amazing redlines and I hope you keep on keeping on!
Jeff
Well I know it's not me!! LOL, I don't sell, I don't have the time to mess with it. I have however sold a car on a rare weak time.
I can see how one could be pissed about getting grinded down then just to see it up for sale for much more........not cool.
The cars I buy here are always for my collection. I personally would never ask for a deal on a car to sell. I do however flip cars if I purchase a lot and only need some of the cars(usually on Craigslist, TTP, or eBay), or(and I've done this many times) if I buy a car and have not looked to make sure I have it. I don't buy cars here to flip because I kind of consider this site for collectors to sell to other collectors, and would rather a collector here get the car than me try to flip it. I've gotten some great deals, and given them as well. I always start here when I list cars to let someone here have first crack, then TTP, and if I have to eBay.
I will say my past collecting has been erratic, and I may start listing some cars that I bought here just to leave me some breathing room, and since I've become a Grand Prix junkie I've been able to focus my collecting more and not buy friggin' everything. The GP downside is, I'm getting to the point where the cars I need are all rare and downright expensive. I'm going to sell some non-GP's I have with the hopes of getting any of the GP bows that I started closer to completion.
Don't get me wrong, I understand the reselling to make money to buy more cars philosophy too. The money for hobbies has to come from somewhere, and more times than not, paychecks just don't cover it.
Anyway my $.02.
Dave
[QUOTE=chickluu;454203]I have no problem with anyone buying my items at the price I am asking--whatever they do with it after is ok, it is theirs----I needed a quick sale, and got the $$ I needed at the time.
HOWEVER, dont grind me down on the price with a LIE, then flip it....[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that would suck! If you want to buy cars with the intent of flipping them, fine. But don't BS our members here to push the price down. Personally, I still have every single redline I ever bought from this board.
If someone is going to talk somebody down on a price, don't lie. If you ever watch Pawn Stars, you'll notice they don't say "I need this for the collection". They're honest.
I have bought cars here many times and had to sell them soon after. Not because I wanted to make a profit, but because I get in over my head and need the money back. Everyone here knows how addicting these cars can be and its not hard at all for me and others to go way over budget when pursuing a certain car or casting. I agree with Jeff when he says once its yours, its yours to do with as you see fit. I also agree its not cool to grind the price down to make a profit with a lie either though.
[QUOTE=fabman1320;454934]I have bought cars here many times and had to sell them soon after. Not because I wanted to make a profit, but because I get in over my head and need the money back. Everyone here knows how addicting these cars can be and its not hard at all for me and others to go way over budget when pursuing a certain car or casting. I agree with Jeff when he says once its yours, its yours to do with as you see fit. I also agree its not cool to grind the price down to make a profit with a lie either though.[/QUOTE]
Same here. I forgot I ended up reselling a couple of cars after finding I had accidentally bought doubles (again).
I can understand if someone really beats you up on something then re-sells it a short time later. I don't want to get into one of those drawn out debates about what defines a "collector" or even worse, a "true collector."
As for myself, before kids, I had plenty of extra money to buy redlines as much as I wanted to. These days, I pick stuff up. Nab deals when I can. Then sometimes, my tastes change, or I need to raise some funds for a killer piece, I sell stuff. Sometimes, I get a piece from a member here and it is not up to par for my collection and it simply has to go. I'd rather resell it than go through the whole return hassle.
As far as I'm considered, when I sell you a car, its your to do what you want. Beat it with a hammer for all I care. If they flip the piece for more money, hey, that's their deal. I got what I wanted for the piece. I don't think I've ever parted with a piece I didn't have a least a slightest inkling that I would one day part with it. So, if some joker said they "had to have it", they will "have to find it somewhere else."
My .02 for whatever it's worth.
Mike
Lying is wrong, period. It's perfectly fine to resell a car for a profit, but not if one lies to make a couple extra bucks on it.
I personally haven't ever sold any cars. My collection is too small to warrant it. In the future I may sell some though, I don't know.
Just my two Lincolns for what they're worth.
Adam