Next Gen Camaro...

[jamwood1]

Well, I guess you can buy one and take all of those awful creature comforts out!

More muscle cars came with ammenities than not: GTO Judge, Shelby GT500, Olds 442, and so on, so this is not a modern phenomenon.

Personally, if I am ever fortunate enough to own a 1970 LS6 Chevelle, which came as loaded as a car could in it's time, I am not removing anything!

[redlines68]

All the cars you listed were later versions of what were once more basic cars. By the late 60's the muscle car was already in its transition to mass appealand packing on pounds of heavy un needed options. Youre overlooking cars that came before that. Max Wedge Polaras, Super Duty Catalinas, etc. These cars wereabout the most basic extreme factory hot rods of the day. And they were highly successful vehicles and responsible for starting it all. Even the beloved 67-68GT500's were a heavy lumbering vehicle that was once a lighter more spartan car. What about the earlier GT 350? Or the ultimate...the GT 350R? Those weresome basic great performing factory cars that became more heavy luxury oriented vehicles by the 67 model year. After 68 the Shelby's were downright landyachts. And that awesome LS6 you own with amenities? (Nice car BTW always liked the LS6's). Even it was born from a more basic ancestor with somewhatextreme factory options for its time the z16 Chevelle. So i'd have to disagree with you that extras were always there.

The heavy options were a later result of trying to gain mass appeal. Yuck I hate that phrase. The mass appeal is what makes the sales so its understandable whythey became more civilized vehicles by the late 60's. They are in the business of making money so i do understand the desire to gain a broader market. Butthey still offered stripped down versions with more HD components and high output engines like COPO's to accommodate those that just wanted performance.Pretty much any car of the era could be as stripped down as you wanted it.

So back to my basic gripe. Its no big endevour to build these things without the extra crap. It doesnt cost anything to leave out a stereo, A/C, rear seat,etc. But it does cost a buyer money for options they dont want or need. Why pay $30,000 for a new Mustang GT with stuff like CD/MP3, power options, and so onif i dont want them? Why cant they give the buyer the option weather he or she wants the extras that make it a $30,000+ car? There are people out hereaccustomed to not having creature comforts that would love to own a new car thats fast and affordable with a warranty and not having to void that warranty inorder to have the car how they want it. Something tells me theres a bigger market out here for buyers of a bare bones GT for $24,000 than a $50,000 statussymbol. But thats just my opinion. Worst case theyd gain another niche that would cost them essentially nothing. They wouldnt have to build them unless someoneordered one. So theres no risk of having to build and sell x amount of them to make a profit. It would simply be an option should somebody want it. Soundspretty simplistic. Hell they could very well steal some business from Mitsubishi and Subaru in the process. The STI and Evo have gone up in price considerablyand gotten alot more luxury oriented. Detroit is always griping about loss of sales to the Jap's blah blah blah. We'll heres one starting place to hitthem. Take on their flagship performance cars and out do them. Then rethink your other vehicles in your fleet. Its not rocket science. I hate to say it but ina way its giving a model even more mass appeal. That is what they want right?

As for my extreme description of a ultimate 2009 Camaro. We'll its not cheap but damn if i had the money to buy that or a loaded up 2009 SS for the sameamount i would most definitely take the first pick. But thats personal preference and i agree that its asking a bit much. Delete options however are not.

[YAIM]

beauzoe wrote:

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Not anytime soon Bowtie Lovers...

"General Motors is planning to cut thousands of white-collar jobs and is considering whether it should sell or stop production of more of its brands, ..."

Colin

From what I've read, they were talking about Buick, Saab and Hummer.

No mention of the new Camaro.

[CHEVY57]

Its all talk right now Bert. When it first came out they said all brands but Cadillac and Chevy. Then I heard the brands you mentioned. Last story was sellingoff Hummer. Only time will tell.